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cveale
06-07-2004, 08:36 PM
Well, a while back some of you might remember that I was breaking a few SENSIs and could not attribute it to mishandling or anything improperly adjusted on the gun. I therefore assumed that it was the Halo crushing the SENSI. Well, I have a had a SENSI on my gun for quite a long time with the Halo and experienced no more issues. The difference, the SENSI rod was much shorter.

Now here is the real problem. I was comparing my bolt the other day to another A4 bolt and whadda know. My shaft is almost a good 3mm longer than the other bolt. DAMNIT!! What is happening is that the bolt is being pushed forward with a slight angle. This makes the front tip of the bolt a hair lower than it should be. The result. My own SENSI smasher. So a factory defect on the bolt has cost me 5 SESNIs. Good god. This thing even went to T.A.G. and they didn't see it.

So now I truly believe the MTs when they say the Halo is not crushing the SENSI. It wasn't in my case and mine works perfectly with the same Halo on my gun and has for a while now. I am a bit upset with WDP for this manufacturing flaw, however and am going to write to them requesting a free SENSI or two.

Ken , any suggestions here.

firemedic30
06-07-2004, 09:09 PM
I agree with you!!! My HALO works great with my Speed. Sensi on or off. Works great. It's all in the set up. Once you get that set up just right....SWEETNESS WILL PREVAIL!!!!

cveale
06-07-2004, 09:21 PM
BTW - I fixed the bolt, but it took some pliers and a drill to do it.

Emmit
06-07-2004, 09:22 PM
BTW - I fixed the bolt, but it took some pliers and a drill to do it.
that's the fix...sometimes the hole isn't cleaned out properly or apparently drilled deep enough.

Fistofthenorthstar
06-07-2004, 10:21 PM
By the way, did you use aftermarket ball detents on your A4(which?) or did you greasing the belt of your Halo?

cveale
06-07-2004, 10:38 PM
I use the cobra detent covers, but I don't think they compress the spring any more than the other covers. I suppose if they had less of a cavity than the stock ones then the spring would be tighter, but I am not sure of this. My Halo is stock and feeds strong.

acoenfam1
06-08-2004, 01:09 PM
Said it before using a Halo is all in the setup.

cveale
06-08-2004, 01:43 PM
Said it before using a Halo is all in the setup.

I just didnt think part of that setup would be redrilling my A4 bolt.

:confused:

skipper
06-09-2004, 10:45 AM
my friend and i both use halos on our a4 with sensi. he sanded the rod down and took the o-rings out of both detents. he said it helps. i will try and get a video up for you guys if you guys are interested..

KEN CRANE
06-09-2004, 11:10 AM
Well, a while back some of you might remember that I was breaking a few SENSIs and could not attribute it to mishandling or anything improperly adjusted on the gun. I therefore assumed that it was the Halo crushing the SENSI. Well, I have a had a SENSI on my gun for quite a long time with the Halo and experienced no more issues. The difference, the SENSI rod was much shorter.

Now here is the real problem. I was comparing my bolt the other day to another A4 bolt and whadda know. My shaft is almost a good 3mm longer than the other bolt. DAMNIT!! What is happening is that the bolt is being pushed forward with a slight angle. This makes the front tip of the bolt a hair lower than it should be. The result. My own SENSI smasher. So a factory defect on the bolt has cost me 5 SESNIs. Good god. This thing even went to T.A.G. and they didn't see it.

So now I truly believe the MTs when they say the Halo is not crushing the SENSI. It wasn't in my case and mine works perfectly with the same Halo on my gun and has for a while now. I am a bit upset with WDP for this manufacturing flaw, however and am going to write to them requesting a free SENSI or two.

Ken , any suggestions here.

ill make sure your taken care of

cveale
06-09-2004, 12:11 PM
Thanks Ken.

:cheers:

TrashDoG
06-11-2004, 11:56 AM
Ill be getting my A4 soon, how can I tell if something needs to be drilled or whatever before I brake the SENSi? I'm going to be nearly flat out broke when I get this and everything I NEED so breaking stuff right from the start is going to be a big money issue.

Should I stick with regular ball detents or get different ones and hwo can I tell if the bolt isnt in right?

Emmit
06-11-2004, 12:15 PM
there is nothing wrong with the ball detents...they only make one type of ball detent. The only difference in ball detents is the caps....there are aftermarket caps, but not actual ball stoppers:wall:

cveale
06-11-2004, 12:19 PM
Emmit, I was wondering about this though. If the Caps had a more shallow cavity for the spring than the stock ones than they would indeed change the tension of the detents. Have you checked this out? In theory a cap could definitely make a difference if it compressed the spring more.

Not saying this is the case, but it's definitely possible.

Jetwing@Impactpaintball
06-11-2004, 04:39 PM
all u need to do as a precaution for halo's is stretch out the detent spring a lil bit (but not too much) and sand down the sensi to the point where it feels like a slight bump rahter than a knob. then u should be fine. i have tested the halo where i open the breech, and put my halo on and fed balls into the breech, i would then feel the ball to see if there is a lot of tension on that ball in the breech and everytime the ball is loose, there fore i no longer agree that halo's break the sensi. for those of u with time on ur hands, try wat i did, and with ur finger, quickly use ur finger as if it was a bolt, and push the breech ball out so it exits the barrel end (take off ur barrel) do this a bunch of times to see for urself if ur halo is feeding too strong

TrashDoG
06-15-2004, 04:33 PM
So if i use a halo I gutta do custom work to my A4 to prevent problems?? I would think for close to $1000 it should be nearly ready to go without custom mods/adjustments done to it (I mean setting stuff isnt a problem, but needing to sand something???)

Emmit
06-15-2004, 05:08 PM
some people never have problems...some fight problems from the get go...

SlasherXII
06-15-2004, 06:02 PM
The only thing you have to worry about when you first get you gun is double feeding and/or paintballs breaking in the breach. As suggested before if you are double feeding, stretch the springs for the dedents. And if you are break paintballs or SENSI rods, sand the SENSI just a little.

TrashDoG
06-16-2004, 09:13 AM
Alright I guess it's worth it cus yeah, these guns look insane so I can only hope they perform as well as they look.

Someone told me yesterday that A4's can like, overpressurize the internals if you shoot too fast, and it breaks the internals?? Sounded like BS to me but I wanted to ask to be sure??

cveale
06-16-2004, 02:26 PM
The only reason I had issues with mine is because my bolt was defective. I don't know if this is the case with all the guns. One thing I noticed comparing other A4 bolts is that the size of the metal shaft on the bolts are not the same size on all bolts. I think a little better Q.C. needs to be done on this as the bolts can most definitely cause issues if the shaft size is off.

spikediesel
06-16-2004, 03:25 PM
The only reason I had issues with mine is because my bolt was defective. I don't know if this is the case with all the guns. One thing I noticed comparing other A4 bolts is that the size of the metal shaft on the bolts are not the same size on all bolts. I think a little better Q.C. needs to be done on this as the bolts can most definitely cause issues if the shaft size is off.
Check this out EVERYBODY it will help some of you

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=14615

cveale
06-16-2004, 07:51 PM
Check this out EVERYBODY it will help some of you

http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=14615

Good find. I thought I remeber reading that a while back. Yeah, I have seen several bolts now that have too long of a shaft. My bolt needed me to break out a drill and VERY CAREFULLY drill a little bit more into the bolt. I don't recommend anyone do this as it is very easy to go to far and drill right through the bolt.

I think a lot of people have issues with the bolt and don't even know it. It can be a SENSI killer for sure.

X-Ecutioner
06-24-2004, 09:41 PM
What about the Empire Reloader-B what do you guys think about that hopper...

Jetwing@Impactpaintball
06-24-2004, 10:03 PM
reloader b,one amazing hopper... it feeds consistant 28 bps on lowest setting, and has a more consistant more unlike the intermittant one on a regular halo, tried a halo on my force 4, ripped... tried a reloader b, ripped ever faster...drools...

TrashDoG
07-03-2004, 11:52 PM
What about the Empire Reloader-B what do you guys think about that hopper...

lol WOW he changed the subject fast

Puckmaster12
07-04-2004, 02:52 AM
Wat do u think, for the money is the best hopper to get?

JTp8ntballer12
07-04-2004, 03:39 PM
for the money i think something vl would be the best, perhaps the revy since it feeds about 12bps nad really cheap. the evolution is also really good for the money you pay at well, topping off around 18. but the best hopper is the halo for sure

Puckmaster12
07-04-2004, 04:18 PM
I have a Halo B but i was wanderin if i should get a Halo B with Rip Drive, and Z code?

TrashDoG
07-08-2004, 01:33 AM
directly on one of viewloaders tech sites it shoes that the best Revy, the Revy with Xboard feeds 9.7bps, they advertise 12-15 but it cant feed mroe than 10, and inconistantly. hold it out and watch it feeds, it feeds in bursts because of the way its designed... I chop with my tippmann 98c because of the trigger mods ive done and I can outshoot the Revy easy, hell my friend can outshoot his revy on a mechanical cocker. They are NOT worth the $40 as they are hardly better thana grav-fed hopper

cveale
07-08-2004, 08:03 AM
I have a Halo B but i was wanderin if i should get a Halo B with Rip Drive, and Z code?

I don't have any more problem with my Halo B on there. It definitely feeds faster than the Egg or Revvy. If you want to unleash the full potential of your Angel then you need the Halo.

Puckmaster12
07-08-2004, 04:27 PM
Soo u think that sellin my Halo and gettin a Halo with Rip and Z code is pointless. Alright thanks for the input!

cveale
07-08-2004, 05:45 PM
Soo u think that sellin my Halo and gettin a Halo with Rip and Z code is pointless. Alright thanks for the input!

Oops. Sorry I thought you said you didn't have a Halo in the previous post. I misread it.

You don't really need the Rip drive. Its kinda pointless IMO. Just keep good batteries in your Halo and you will never need to use your RIP. I would use the money to get a Victory35 board if I were you instead of buying a new Halo.

Puckmaster12
07-08-2004, 07:19 PM
Ya thats probally the smart idea! Plus the vitory board are runnin pretty cheap on the forums. I think thats wat im goin to d. Ty