New Speed

[Buddha 5]

Check this out:

http://pbhub.de/portal/imma/up/eurospeed1.jpg

http://pbhub.de/portal/imma/up/eurospeed2.jpg

http://pbhub.de/portal/imma/up/eurospeed3.jpg

The Euro Angel Speed...especially for all you Euros out there. Well, maybe not ALL Euros, considering these babys will be limited. Available on the upcoming smash-hit-event....DMA 2004 (http://www.dma2004.com/) in Amsterdam, next weekend from june 4th, 5th and 6th! This new Angel has the same short body the A4 series has, new software, the European map on the backplate and....Eye-Q!!! They will be sold at the Spearhead stand on the DMA event, in the following colours:
- black dust
- blue dust
- red dust
- graphite dust
- black to red dust

Pretty cool huh?

[Marfless]

Yep.. They did a good job....
So if you guys have the time.... come to Amsterdam....

Marfless

[mpire123]

Hot stuff!

[KEN CRANE]

I Just Want Everyone To Know In Advance That This Gun Will Not Be Made Available To The U.s Market.it Is A Euro.
Product Only And Also A Limited Production Gun.sorry Guys.

[LED_bushwacker]

oh damn man, that really sucks. this speed has all the extra stuff i want w/o lcd and it has sick milling.

[yzrm1]

wow, looks real nice, though I wounder what trigger it will come with the top picture has the normal speed trigger and the bottom picture has the slayer.

[- KEVIE -]

wonder what the price is going to be on those

[idirtryder13]

ken, will you guys be able to make the retro mod like that? where its a led screen besides lcd??

[IwanaANGEL]

looks neat

I want that feed neck!

[Identitycrisis]

oh my lord, that is nice.

[garrick]

I Just Want Everyone To Know In Advance That This Gun Will Not Be Made Available To The U.s Market.it Is A Euro.
Product Only And Also A Limited Production Gun.sorry Guys.


will a US model be released in the future?

g.

[mamba_juice]

i heard the price will be around 1000 EU....which i believe is about 1400 US

[KEN CRANE]

will a US model be released in the future?

g.


no
no
no
no

[KEN CRANE]

ken, will you guys be able to make the retro mod like that? where its a led screen besides lcd??


shhhhhh. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[C.Carles-AOG]

Great work! WDP is pouring it on.

[idirtryder13]

no
no
no
no

y not?? personally, i think the usa should get a custom version because i think we buy more angels than any other country, so for a think you, they should make some for the us citiznes too :evilgrin:

:patriot:

[mamba_juice]

the force fly is pretty much limited to the US and canada....imagine how the europeans feel about that

[Marfless]

Im getting a force fly.... and I live in The Netherlands.... :p

Marfless

[mamba_juice]

ah, my bad...i forgot that you could ship inernationally these days :pat:

[psychoballer07]

im sure thanks to the power of e-bay, you will be able to get your hands on one in the near future

[Buddha 5]

The price on the Euro Speed will be around 1195 Euros.

[no1beefcake]

That milling is ub3r sexay (and that blue dust color makes me want to paint my truck that way).

[slapshot]

Ken,

Your response is UNACCEPTABLE ! Wave your magic wand and make some appear ! I want one !

Pretty Please...........

[mattcfleming]

I SECOND THAT!!

-Matt

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

ahhh stop ur whining, ur makin us sound like a bunch of spoiled americans =) jkjk

[Emmit]

ahhh stop ur whining, ur makin us sound like a bunch of spoiled americans =) jkjk
I think the conversion and the Force threads already accomplished that for you guys;)

[Furby]

Damn that's hot. If only my wife would let me fly to Amsterdam for a weekend....

[p8nt_junkie]

That gun is so close to perfect its crazy. Now if WDP can shorten the body to the A4 length, make a new LED board that doesn't allow you to adjust MROF outside the gripframe, and keep the feed neck low and loose the vernier wheels with a Master tech warranty and trigger, then you'd have the perfect gun. But that is my fantasy so I'll keep dreamin'. Because the cool thing about a Speed with EyeQ would be you can turn it on and rock with eyes ON default. That would be pimp to just turn it ON and mow!

[winter001]

the body is the same length as the a4

[boathouse]

I want one!!! :cry: If somebody gets me one, I'll be willing to perform sexual favors.

[Furby]

http://www.68caliber.com/news/industry/story04100.php

Thanks for the tip, Buddha5!

[bobjim]

Well if the mods here wouldn't have kept deleting my threads about this earlier this week we would have known in advance :throwup6: and don't worry guys I'm sure in a few months there will be a similar Speed to hit the market in the U.S.

[Emmit]

Honestly if you'd take the fricken clue the first time a thread gets deleted and wouldn't keep posting you'd be a much happier person. Threads are often deleted because someone with loose lips made a comment they weren't supposed to. Stop whining like a baby when you get moderated and accept it and move on with your life.

[bobjim]

Honestly if you'd take the fricken clue the first time a thread gets deleted and wouldn't keep posting you'd be a much happier person. Threads are often deleted because someone with loose lips made a comment they weren't supposed to. Stop whining like a baby when you get moderated and accept it and move on with your life.

Thanks but no thanks no 1 ever even gave me a reason :down: even sent matt a PM asking him why but no answer and then 2 days later breaking news....

[Emmit]

no need for a reason...live and learn...end of discussion

[thog94]

Stop adding fuel to the fire. It's over and done with. This thread is about the new speed, not your threads getting deleted.

[bobjim]

Ok whatever.......Hope everyone likes the new speed and can't wait to see hopefully a NEW model speed to hit the U.S.

[mhill65]

so does the "shhhh" mean yes. I would still pay full price for it and it would be soo much easier to use :)

[Buddha 5]

http://www.68caliber.com/news/industry/story04100.php

Thanks for the tip, Buddha5!
Thanks dude! And it's cool you've given me props in that article, but really I'm not the one who deserves the credit...I merely took this news off another forum.

Those who want autographs, I'm the fat guy at the JungleSupplies.com (http://www.junglesupplies.com/) stand. :D

[dynastySSS]

i like the milling

[Marfless]

[QUOTE=
Those who want autographs, I'm the fat guy at the JungleSupplies.com (http://www.junglesupplies.com/) stand. :D[/QUOTE]

Ahhh okay good to know... i will see you there then

lol

Marfless

[idirtryder13]

i dont really care for the milling but i do like the led board

[sharps990]

wait ken i missed that lcd and led board?

what

sharps

[Bulldog@AO]

I Just Want Everyone To Know In Advance That This Gun Will Not Be Made Available To The U.s Market.it Is A Euro.
Product Only And Also A Limited Production Gun.sorry Guys.


Dumb...

[thog94]

The milling looks like reverse Force milling, just tighter.

[KEN CRANE]

Stop adding fuel to the fire. It's over and done with. This thread is about the new speed, not your threads getting deleted.


oh darn what did i miss ? did we delete posts ? tell me come on what did they say now ? darn i fell asleep early last night. :watchout: :watchout: :watchout:

[Vinny3299]

so what is going to be better this or the angel 4 fly??

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

I want one!!! :cry: If somebody gets me one, I'll be willing to perform sexual favors.

seeing how ur 15, ill hafta say no thanx. ill let michael jackson keep the lead in pedophilia =)

[pbmatt74]

seeing how ur 15, ill hafta say no thanx. ill let michael jackson keep the lead in pedophilia =)

Hahaha lol. Oh. That was dirty.

[DynastyDYEir3]

meah to bad its erope only o well its just an angel

[JTp8ntballer12]

just an angel?

its a angel 4 with a led!!

[boathouse]

seeing how ur 15, ill hafta say no thanx. ill let michael jackson keep the lead in pedophilia =)

You know you lust for me.

[aerotcus]

cool gun but the pricing makes no sense... over 1400 USD (granted its not selling in the US and I dont know what inflation is like in europe) .. The flys are cheaper than that.

[C.Carles-AOG]

We don't really know the features yet, passing any judgement on this marker is premature at best.

[Animal]

it's beautifull

[Vinny3299]

i agree the fly should be the better of the 2 anyways if i'm correct?

[pbmatt74]

The speed is limited so it's gonna be a lot more rare than the flies. That bumps up th price.

[Marfless]

I saw them yesterday fot the first time and they looked pretty sweet...
Thay also have a fade one....
The backplate isi sweet also.... Whole Europe is on it

Marfless

[C.Carles-AOG]

No pics Marfless!?

[SlasherXII]

I agree that it is more expensive because of its rarity. Custom milling, EyeQ using the LED board... One question thought because I didn't see them in the picture, does it come with the 3sum volumizers? That might add a little justification to the price don't you think? :fighter:

[jodd]

cool or that!

[mpire123]

That looks sweet.

[IR3-ANGEL]

WoW that looks really good.

[C.Carles-AOG]

Now get an MT trigger and you're set!

[IwanaANGEL]

got a picture of the backplate?

[dynastySSS]

that is really cool!!

[jimjim]

I like your Euro Angel (i have one in this colour also) but what i'm more interested in is where did you get the laminate wooden floor, i've been looking for ages for one. :lol:

[jodd]

unfortuneally it isnt mine... and the same for the wooden floor....

but heres the back plate...

[IR3-ANGEL]

The back plate looks nice.

[thog94]

It's nice to see WDP making different backplates. It's pretty cool looking.

[IwanaANGEL]

yes very nice backplate

[dynastySSS]

all we need now is a american speed\fly

[C.Carles-AOG]

We have one, the MT conversion ;-)

[DaBanShee]

I shot one over the weekend in Norway...VERY NICE...i have a couple of pix of it as well!

[IR3-ANGEL]

Post those pics my friend. I wanna see.

[DaBanShee]

Here you go

[C.Carles-AOG]

Thanks Ami.

[DaBanShee]

No prob...i have pix of the joy angels as well as what the Fat Lady's switched to!

[TEC_olsen]

but one thing I did not understnad, why loose the vernier wheels?!?!?! One of the greatest inventions......

So what does a new euro speed include? Whats in the pack when you buy it?

Lucky me living in norway :)

[winter001]

I'm confused about the vernier wheels too, the original pictures of the Euro Speed had them, but the pics people have posted show the guns don't, did they switch mid way through production and only run a few with the wheels?

[Luzrd]

ken, will you guys be able to make the retro mod like that? where its a led screen besides lcd??

shhhhhh. :clap: :clap: :clap:

cmon any info on this??? please someone say something PLEASE!!!!!!

[coldzero]

Hey guys just picked mine up this weekend, still running it in but it is amazing. I got a black to red fade. Quite an upgrade from my 98 custom. The trigger i got is the one in the second pic (the one above the box) although mine is black, very nice trigger. It also has a sweet trigger pull out of the box no adjusting needed. The milling is amazing and it's oh so light. I love this Marker!

[Paintballjc]

It would be nice to know if Ken could do this to my speed.... I rather have the LED, its alot easier.

[Jackass9484]

the euro speed is gonna sell for about 1200 euros

[mhill65]

are there different categories on the board or is it the same?

[C.Carles-AOG]

There is only 1 Euro board for now, that doesn't imply that there will or will not be more in the future.

[Chief_Shift]

ok i really want this now, im gonna sell my speed as soon as it is out in NA, :smiley:

[Chief_Shift]

speaking of when is it out in NA

[Emmit]

if by NA you mean North America then forget it....Ken even stated in this thread already that it will not be available here at all

Ken's post from page 1:
I Just Want Everyone To Know In Advance That This Gun Will Not Be Made Available To The U.s Market.it Is A Euro.
Product Only And Also A Limited Production Gun.sorry Guys.

[Chief_Shift]

damn , sorry i didnt see that. i guess ill just have to go to europe.... :lol: and smuggle it through the airports

[TEC_olsen]

Really close to buying one now.....
But a few questions:

Which internals does it have? the same as the fly?
It has the euro board, whats the difference between that one and the fly board?
Basicly Im just asking what the difference between the Euro angel and the angel fly is??? I know that the euro angel dont have lcd, or the vernier wheels, and it does have fewer debounce settings, but except for that??

Please answer quickly..... Il buy myself an euro really soon if I can sell my lcd....

EDIT: corrected a writing error

[Konsul Garman]

Hi!

I've had the Euro Angel for a few weeks now. This is my first Angel, so I'm afraid I cannot really compare it to the A4 Fly, or any other angel for that matter. This is what I know:


No Vernier wheels - adjustments are made with Allen keys
Comes with the Slayer trigger from the A4 Fly
Comes with a single volumizer (I'm not sure about the size)
Has the Soft Face bolt
Comes with the same eye system as the A4 Fly
Is capped at 31 BPS with eyes enabled
Comes with the Infinity barrel
Has a low rise feed neck (with o-rings to secure the hopper)
Has semi, 3 shot burst, auto and demo modes
Does NOT come with a pressure gauge in the Flash Tank (same as A4 Fly)

The LED display lets you adjust a handful of options: loader type, speed cap (for when the eyes are disabled), trigger offset (debounce), mode and dwell. I suggest you download and read the manual from wdp.tv (http://www.wdp.tv) (click Products - Angel - Euro, and then choose Manual in the lower left).

Du blir fort glad i denne markøren, unge mann. Det ble i alle fall jeg. ;)

[mad-cow]

and i have to add that by pulling and holding the trigger for 2 seconds you disable the eyes |-_-|

[Buddha 5]

[list] Comes with the Slayer trigger from the A4 Fly

Begging your pardon, but the trigger on the Euro Speed is NOT the Slayer trigger as found on the Fly. It looks like it, but it's slightly shorter, and in my opinion formed better to suit your fingers (the Slayer trigger does not have this feel).

[Konsul Garman]

Begging your pardon, but the trigger on the Euro Speed is NOT the Slayer trigger as found on the Fly. It looks like it, but it's slightly shorter, and in my opinion formed better to suit your fingers (the Slayer trigger does not have this feel). Really? In that case, I stand corrected. I haven't examined the A4 Fly up close, but I assumed that the triggers were the same after looking at the infosheets at WDP's website (which lists the "Laid Back Slayer Trigger" for both guns).

[dynastySSS]

ok salyer goes with the newer 4 and stock with flys...the speed has the speed trigger :)

[im_spicey]

i'm gonna b over in that part of the world next summer....will they still be for sale or is it just at that one event???!