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Target
05-10-2004, 01:42 AM
Here's how we're doing it:

you will need the following tools:

1. all allen wrenches (hex keys) that are required to take off grip frame, and to take the trigger out of the frame.
2. either a drill press, or a dremel tool, and a vice.
3. Patience

you will need the following items:

1. pack of rare earth magnets
2. Jb weld
3. some steel pins to plug up the front/middle trigger pivot points (this step is optional) (you could use standard WDP trigger pivot pins)

instructions: with drill press (clean way)

1. Decide on your base trigger (3-styla, Cobra, Impact, etc...)
2. Place some JB weld on the sides of your steel pins, slide them into your front and middle trigger pivot points.
3. wait for the JB weld to dry/set in place (24 hours)
4. Depending on how long your steel pins are you may need to cut/grind/file/sand them so they are flush with the sides of your trigger.
5. Now that they are plugged up, you can take your trigger, put it in a vice, crank it down tight so it wont move while you drill it out.
6. Put the vice (which is holding your trigger in place) under the drill press, drill into the trigger directly above your middle trigger pivot point (which is now patched up) now drill the distance of 2 magnets stacked down into the trigger (you might actually want to drill a little more that way you can have room to put a little jb weld down in the hole)
7. take a toothe pick or some small object and put some JB weld down in the hole (just a little but of JB weld)
8. Stack 2 magnets, make sure that they are sticking togather using their own polarity, then pull them apart, and put a little JB weld between them (their own polarity wont be enough to keep them togather for this application)
9. take the magnets and push them down in the hole. (push them down hard, that way you get all the air pockets out of there, and it will also make any excess JB weld seep up the sides of the magnets to the top, in which case you just wipe it off before it sets)
10. your magnet stack should be perfectly set and flush now with the top of the trigger.

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10451&stc=1

Instructions: Using dremel tool (messy way)

1. Decide on your base trigger (3-styla, Cobra, Impact, etc...)
2. Place some JB weld on the sides of your steel pin, slide them into your front trigger pivot point. (you only need to patch the front pin for this application)
3. wait for the JB weld to dry/set in place (24 hours)
4. Depending on how long your steel pin is you may need to cut/grind/file/sand it so that it's flush with the sides of your trigger.
5. Now that it's plugged up, you can take your trigger, put it in a vice, crank it down tight so it wont move while you cut an aluminum block out of your trigger.
6. measure, or guestemate how much to cut out of your trigger (it doesn't matter how much you take out, any errors can be filled with JB weld.
7. Start cutting into the trigger so that the bolck you cut out will be right above the middle trigger pivot point, cut from the top of the trigger down a little more than the distance of 2 magnets sacked on top of each other.
8. Continue cutting into the trigger until you have a block of aluminum cut out. (don't worry about how messy it looks, you can JB weld and file/sand down the imperfections later)
9. Take your magnets stack them togather, take some JB weld and completely encapsulate them in it.
10. Put the magnet glob on down into the trigger hole.
11. take even more JB weld and fill in the Gaps around the magnets (don't worry about how messy it is, fix it later when it's dry with a file and some sand paper) wait untill the JB weld dries.
12. time to fix your mistakes, get out your file and sand paper, start shaping the JB weld so that it's in the shape that the trigger used to be, if done correctly your trigger will be in the same basic shape it was in before, but now it has 2 magnets in it.

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10458&stc=1

instructions: (putting a magnet on your Angel's body)

1. put your new magnet trigger in your grip frame.
2. put your grip frame up to your Angel's body, put another magnet on your Angel's body directly above where your trigger magnets would be if your frame was screwed on.
3. use either super glue/Epoxy/JB weld to keep it in place.

that basically it.

mamba_juice
05-10-2004, 02:38 AM
this seems like a lot more work then any of the other mods out there....i personally wouldnt recommend this for the average person to do.

"same thing, different flavor"

NickDeveau
05-10-2004, 01:31 PM
If you only drilled enough room for two magnets and you put two magents into the trigger then how is the grip frame going to sit flush with the body if there is a magnet sticking out with nowhere to go?
Edit: fixed some poor spelling :)

Target
05-10-2004, 02:44 PM
well, the frame is sitting flush with the body but the trigger isn't , what im saying is put the body magnet above the trigger, but also if you need to move it back a little so that the trigger has room to move back and forth than thats what you have to do.

Uhhh, I uploaded some pics but they aren't showing up here I'll try again... sit tight.

Target
05-10-2004, 02:48 PM
http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10450&stc=1

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10458&stc=1

here are some pics

Target
05-10-2004, 02:55 PM
if you really want this mod to work good, and you really don't care about your warranty (I sure don't) drill a hole in your body for the body magnet.

NickDeveau
05-10-2004, 04:40 PM
I have a lifetime warrantee so i certainly do care

Target
05-10-2004, 05:19 PM
if you really want this mod to work good, and you really don't care about your warranty (I sure don't) drill a hole in your body for the body magnet.

wow this is sad, I have to quote myself...

I said if you want it to work good, and IF you don't care about your warranty.

I have a lifetime warranty too bud :biggthump

mamba_juice
05-10-2004, 05:23 PM
just one quick and mean question.....

what makes this mod eaisier and better then the 5 or so other's out there?

bower23
05-10-2004, 05:38 PM
I really hate to say this... because I don't what to seem like I'm putting your idea down... but you could always just buy a trigger from speedhatchetman. He has this magnet mod already done to his triggers. Just an idea.

Target
05-10-2004, 07:57 PM
is it so wrong to post an informative guide? I mean seriously, I go through the trouble to write this stuf out, and all I get is criticism. Yes you could just buy a trigger from speedhatchetman but then again, there are us tinkers out there who like to do the dirty work ourselves. And Mamba juice, nothing makes this any better or easier than the 5 other ones out there, But, it just shows that there are still us people that like to sit down and think up cool modifications up, and if were not making new ones up, then we are improving, or coming up with new ways of doing them.

speedhatchetman
05-11-2004, 09:36 PM
I was reading this and the way i do it is sooooooooo much easier, but you need a drill press or a mill to do it. I tell anyone that wants to know but its easier to have someone do it for you if they have a press or a mill. All it is a no contact point in the front of the trigger and my magnets and super glue, its milled in the front of the trigger then one is on the gun frame and easy as pie (and we all know pie is easy), although your method is creative and probally just as functional, it was nice of you to post it for some tinkers like me as well.

NickDeveau
05-11-2004, 10:04 PM
Thats how i did it too speed, excpet i did mine with a dremel freehand... :-/ you know how that goes...

mamba_juice
05-11-2004, 10:11 PM
hey speed...what show is your avatar off of...i dont watch a lot of anime but from what i can tell it's FLCL......i just think that show is a little on the freaky side

ricecrispi
05-12-2004, 05:59 PM
target thanks for the write up. Seems very professional and well written.

It is a bit our of reach of many people bcecause they dont have access for tools. I got a few but even i got to go to neighbors to get this done. This is way to advance for many people but i like it. Thanks

one more thing, hatchman has the trigger setup for this so if anyone wants the mod done, buy trigger for hatchmen and do the rest of this setup. Takes half the work out and you get a nice trigger and supplies for the mag mod

Target
05-12-2004, 10:58 PM
sorry internet was down
but seriously, don't you hate putting alot of work into something, and then you post it and get nothing but Flamed, thats why I hardly ever post, I'm so sick of mean people.

ricecrispi
05-13-2004, 01:33 AM
yeah its a good guide, you need to edit and attach pics at the begining to make easier to understand for most people to get it.

I like how you stood up for yourself dawg. Keep tha head up.

bower23
05-13-2004, 01:41 AM
target... I wasn't flaming you. Not at all. I'm always looking for other ways of doing things. And it's not a bad idea. I was just giving the people that are lazy a way of doing the same thing. Speedhatchetman has nice triggers... with it already done. But If you want to do it yourself and keep your trigger you already have.. go for it. By all means.... keep the ideas coming. :)

bower23
05-13-2004, 01:43 AM
p.s. i know what you mean about mean people. just about everyone of my posts get deleted. I don't even know why I sill come here.

mamba_juice
05-13-2004, 03:03 AM
p.s. i know what you mean about mean people. just about everyone of my posts get deleted. I don't even know why I sill come here.



maybe you deserved it....the mods dont do stuff without a reason (unless ken's on a rampage :devil1: )

Target
05-15-2004, 01:02 AM
Well, I get to go to Lake Worth to pick up my new triggers this weekend, we put removed the leaf spring from my board, filed the trigger down and attatched a strip of aluminum that we bent at a 90 degree angle, this is going to replace our leaf spring. and we dicided on putting in another set of magnets on the trigger, on the bottom of the trigger, and on the frame. see pic attatched.

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10714&stc=1

nonamifrontman
05-17-2004, 09:13 PM
getting a little behind huh david....
its nathan
yea, im the one who helped him do all these mods...he thought them up and i made them work, ill post some pics of the triggers and our doodles of the triggers we drew at the staging area of our local field.

Target
05-19-2004, 01:33 PM
uhhh, I think I might have to send My Ir3 to WS soon, like in the next week or 2, So I don't think I'm going to go to the staff game for righteous after all.
I'm gonna get the DEMON ACE and I'm also ordering a Cobra 45 frame.
Ask Matt what the ETA is on those Slayer triggers, tell him to make them with only the rear trigger pivot point.

nonamifrontman
05-19-2004, 05:57 PM
ill ask him this weekend, im gonna go to his moms work and see what they can do for triggers....im gonna try and get them to mill me triggers with the leaf on it...instead of jb welding it on, im also gonna see if they can mill out holes for the bearings and magnets like we were talking about.

Assault
05-20-2004, 07:55 PM
I have done my magnetic trigger mod by drilling into the grip frame below where the trigger return adjustment screw contacts the frame and inserting and super glueing a rare earth magnet there. As my rare earth magnets are a bit bigger than what you guys are using I found it a bit too strong hence a harder trigger pull. I will be drilling the hole deeper and seating the magnet a bit lower so it is a bit further away resulting in it being a bit softer, then using JB weld to cover the hole over and smoothing it off. If this works o.k. I will remove the leaf spring.
Very simple mod to do, I just used a hand drill and a drill bit slightly larger than the diameter of the magnet.

Target
05-20-2004, 09:44 PM
Don't use JB weld on your mod, we found out that JB weld has magnetic properties, it's polarity may make your magnet pull more than you were expecting.

We put a magnet there too, but I don't like the way it feels when compared to the magnet being above the trigger, but thats just my personal preference.

Nathan, Lets see some pics

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10848&stc=1

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10849&stc=1

ricecrispi
05-22-2004, 02:28 AM
For the new leaf spring material use floppy disc metal slide covers. They are thin, bendable, and cuttable. I haven't done this mod before because I was try to think of a similiar material to a leaf spring and it was on my desk everyday!!

A lot easier to work with than a thick metal elbow and very easy to cut. You can cut hunderds of them because they are cheap and any size you want without sacrificing the leafspring or using hard to work with material. Pics coming soon.

RockinTHEangel
05-23-2004, 07:34 PM
wait...what kind of magnets and size do we use??? and JB weld, whats that? it sai u shouldnt use it bc of the magnetic properties to it, so what should i use instead of that?ive cut the top of my leaf and glued it to my trigger, what do i do from here? please help i dont wanna mess anything up so my God-like gun is ruined!!thanks! please answer!

Target
05-23-2004, 08:31 PM
lol, well, go to radio shack and get a pack of small rare earth magnets (any other kind of magnet might scew with your board. now, jb weld can be found at any home depot. I found that super glue works great too. I don't know if I could have made it any clearer, I made pics and everything

Target
05-23-2004, 08:54 PM
Here I made it idiot proof
http://angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10903&stc=1

ricecrispi
05-23-2004, 10:17 PM
Damn, sorry I repeated myself, forgot i already said that LOL. :clap:

Target
05-23-2004, 10:35 PM
Ricecrispi, Im not one for flaming, but if you read the thread you will see that your suggestion has already been taken into accound, someone has already suggested that, this thread isn't for people who want to order a prefabricated trigger, this is for people who want to do it themselves, got that?

jayr7309
07-31-2004, 11:54 PM
U did Good TARGET with your diagrams

Assault
08-01-2004, 12:44 AM
Just to follow up, I have completed my magnetic trigger mod and I like it. I used a product called selleys kneed it. like jb weld but they have a metallic based one and a polymer based one with no magentic properties. I used the one with no magnetic properties and have set the magnet further into the frame and it works great. I need to do the leaf spring now.

Assault
08-01-2004, 09:20 AM
Right done the leaf spring as well. Like someone suggested earlier, I used a metal tab from a floppy disk and cut it to shape then stuck it to the trigger to use instead of the spring. The trigger is super light now, has no springs and still returns even if the marker is shooting straight up in the air. I really should become a master tech for lil ol' nz.