question?

[Infinity20k]

what is hte spring used for on the trigger i just bought a space frame for my lcd(which they just came out with) and i have a cobra flat trigger i was wondering what the hell the srping does.. do i really need it?

[Vantage_TeS]

The spring is there just to help reset the trigger a little bit, to give it a little more crisp return.

You dont need it, alot of people take em out.

[C.Carles-AOG]

Lemme guess, the one from firstcallpaintball? I'm currently helping a friend do his, what a mistake. I told him not to... ok, we're past that now.
The frame doesn't allow any of the 3 triggers (2 stock, WDP lady trigger) that he has to fit. It seems the clear anodizing that they put on the frame (as a sealant) makes it too thick and then you have to sand down any trigger you're going to put in. Also, it seems that the trigger adjustments have become virtually useless, and so has his trigger along with them. The forward stop, the grub screw on the bottom, is not what makes it stop, rather it's the front of that post, great CAD work. Any and all springs we try aren't working because they're simply not long enough so his trigger is sloppy as can be and has no snap to it or return for that matter. Only the rearward overtravel adjustment is of any use, but without a spring to assist it, it doesn't do much. I'm still working on it trying to help the id10t...ugh

[Emmit]

Lemme guess, the one from firstcallpaintball? I'm currently helping a friend do his, what a mistake. I told him not to... ok, we're past that now.
The frame doesn't allow any of the 3 triggers (2 stock, WDP lady trigger) that he has to fit. It seems the clear anodizing that they put on the frame (as a sealant) makes it too thick and then you have to sand down any trigger you're going to put in. Also, it seems that the trigger adjustments have become virtually useless, and so has his trigger along with them. The forward stop, the grub screw on the bottom, is not what makes it stop, rather it's the front of that post, great CAD work. Any and all springs we try aren't working because they're simply not long enough so his trigger is sloppy as can be and has no snap to it or return for that matter. Only the rearward overtravel adjustment is of any use, but without a spring to assist it, it doesn't do much. I'm still working on it trying to help the id10t...ugh
Let's make sure we set the record straight. This is NOT a WDP product, nor is it endorsed by WDP. Hence the reason we don't post it here.

[C.Carles-AOG]

Yep, it's mislabeled on their website as being a WDP product. Wrong! Good call Emmit.

[MoogLe]

carles did you try a speed trigger in there maybe?

both adjustment screws are on the top so it might work.

and maybe do the magnet mod since the springs arent helping

sounds like a very poorly made product though....

[Jose_Rico]

Let's make sure we set the record straight. This is NOT a WDP product, nor is it endorsed by WDP. Hence the reason we don't post it here.

Too bad WDP won't honor their customers' demands by making aftermarket accessories for products other than what are currently in production.

[drkanglr]

Hey, I saw this thread last night and was a bit worried because I had one of the space frames from firstcall on the way myself. Well, when I got home from work this morning, I saw the box from firstcall and knew what was in there. I went to bed anyway, because after reading what Carles said, I figured I'd need some sleep so I didn't lose it trying to make the thing fit right.
I took the board and trigger off of my old 45 frame (that and the brand new lady trigger in the box are for sale if anyone wants 'em), and when I tried to put the trigger into the new frame I was sure that Carles had been right, that it wouldn't fit and I'd have to sand it down. But instead, I just forced it into place, I decided if nothing else, at least I'd know just what need to be sanded. Once I got it all the way in, though, I realized that there was no need to sand anything, it was a perfect fit w/ no side to side play and no extra drag or catches on the frame. Getting the pin back in was a PIA, but I know it won't be falling out on it's own. Now, I had already taken out my spring and done a magnet mod on the trigger, so I was less worried about that. I did notice that when the board was in place (after a slight modification, you have to shave a mm or two off of the upper right corner beyond the screw hole. Just round it off and it will fit just right, same w/ the clear plastic shield under the board) I noticed that the microswitch stayed depressed, no matter where the trigger was positioned. I adjusted the lower set screw so that only a couple of the threads are showing from under the trigger, and this gave me a perfect amount of return travel. To fix the microswitch problem, I gently reshaped the leaf that depresses the switch so that it sat closer to the main body of the switch. By doing this it allows enough room for the trigger to return and let the microswitch release, it also adds a bit more energy to the return. In fact, I have not yet put the magnets back in yet because the return is very quick and snappy even w/ out them. As for the set screw that limits your pull on the top of the trigger, that's a personal preferance, but I was able to set it so that as soon as the microswitch trips, the pull stops. No extra travel or wasted pull. I love the way the frame looks, feels, and performs. The position allows me to feel tighter and more compact, and the position that my tank is now in balances perfectly. The difference is much more functional than I expected. I am very pleased w/ mine.
Now, all that being said, I am a bit peeved that I was led to believe that this was a WDP product, and I would not have purchased it if I had known before hand. Not that I'm opposed to using other manufacturer's product, just that I am opposed to being misled.

[collin]

actuallty eveerypne please listen to me the reason none of those triggers work is because they put to much anodoizing on the frame and they don tmke it big enough i was one of firstcalls first customers for the space rame all you have to do is file down the inside were the trigger goes and booom you got a fit. please post a reply if you have any questions

[Vantage_TeS]

actuallty eveerypne please listen to me the reason none of those triggers work is because they put to much anodoizing on the frame and they don tmke it big enough i was one of firstcalls first customers for the space rame all you have to do is file down the inside were the trigger goes and booom you got a fit. please post a reply if you have any questions

The frame doesn't allow any of the 3 triggers (2 stock, WDP lady trigger) that he has to fit. It seems the clear anodizing that they put on the frame (as a sealant) makes it too thick and then you have to sand down any trigger you're going to put in.

Didn't he already say that? :notsure:

[collin]

or sand down the inside, also i am to lazy to read all of it

[MoogLe]

Hey, I saw this thread last night and was a bit worried because I had one of the space frames from firstcall on the way myself. Well, when I got home from work this morning, I saw the box from firstcall and knew what was in there. I went to bed anyway, because after reading what Carles said, I figured I'd need some sleep so I didn't lose it trying to make the thing fit right.
I took the board and trigger off of my old 45 frame (that and the brand new lady trigger in the box are for sale if anyone wants 'em), and when I tried to put the trigger into the new frame I was sure that Carles had been right, that it wouldn't fit and I'd have to sand it down. But instead, I just forced it into place, I decided if nothing else, at least I'd know just what need to be sanded. Once I got it all the way in, though, I realized that there was no need to sand anything, it was a perfect fit w/ no side to side play and no extra drag or catches on the frame. Getting the pin back in was a PIA, but I know it won't be falling out on it's own. Now, I had already taken out my spring and done a magnet mod on the trigger, so I was less worried about that. I did notice that when the board was in place (after a slight modification, you have to shave a mm or two off of the upper right corner beyond the screw hole. Just round it off and it will fit just right, same w/ the clear plastic shield under the board) I noticed that the microswitch stayed depressed, no matter where the trigger was positioned. I adjusted the lower set screw so that only a couple of the threads are showing from under the trigger, and this gave me a perfect amount of return travel. To fix the microswitch problem, I gently reshaped the leaf that depresses the switch so that it sat closer to the main body of the switch. By doing this it allows enough room for the trigger to return and let the microswitch release, it also adds a bit more energy to the return. In fact, I have not yet put the magnets back in yet because the return is very quick and snappy even w/ out them. As for the set screw that limits your pull on the top of the trigger, that's a personal preferance, but I was able to set it so that as soon as the microswitch trips, the pull stops. No extra travel or wasted pull. I love the way the frame looks, feels, and performs. The position allows me to feel tighter and more compact, and the position that my tank is now in balances perfectly. The difference is much more functional than I expected. I am very pleased w/ mine.
Now, all that being said, I am a bit peeved that I was led to believe that this was a WDP product, and I would not have purchased it if I had known before hand. Not that I'm opposed to using other manufacturer's product, just that I am opposed to being misled.
probably depends on which trigger you have since different triggers have different thickness

[drkanglr]

I have two stock LCD triggers and a lady trigger that all fit. Might just be less ano on my frame, who knows. I do know that it looks great and is hella comfortable.

[C.Carles-AOG]

This very lack of repeatable results is a lack of quality control. I'm in fits fixing my friends gun.

[budhall088]

Well, it is only 33 bucks. I might try my luck with'em and see if I get a good one.

[drkanglr]

It's only 33 bucks for the frame. Another 15 for the grips. About $57 w/ tax and shipping. Like I said, I'm happy w/ mine, but if it's not WDP they shouldn't advertise it as such and mine works, so I like it. I'd be pissed too if it wasn't working.

[budhall088]

Oh, damn, forgot about the grips. Good catch.

[MXPBman806]

One Question, how much was that Space Frame for the LCD (sounds funny how im asking you this)im lookin for one for my LCD

[drkanglr]

It was about $33 for the frame itself. Then another $15 for the grips, but it comes w/ a free Lady Trigger.