Can you replace an LCD board w/ A4?

[Dark@ngel]

Can this be done? If so do I need to consider upgrading or changing parts to accomodate the new board? Already have a HALO which chops paint like mad in my Dark Angel 01 LCD. :fence:

[Vantage_TeS]

As far as I know, no.

Different voltages. You can do a IR3 board.

Cant even just swap the batteries as well because I think you would have to change all the internals annnd...no.

[drkanglr]

I don't know if it will fit w/out modification to the board, the grip frame, or both. I do know that it takes a different battery, the 4.5v instead of the 6v that's in the LCD. Other than that, I don't know why it wouldn't work. But if you can wait for a few months, the retro kit being done by the master techs will be available. The kit includes the A4 Fly board, the eyeq break-beam eye anti-chop system (that's a mouthful), and I'm sure that they do some nice cleaning and adjustment work while they have it. :smiley:

As far as chopping w/ the halo and the LCD, that's not unheard of. It was quite frequent when people first started using the halos. You can look at putting another ball detent on the other side of the marker even w/ the one you have, or you could look at putting in a new, super-stiff detent to replace yours and see if that helps.
The A4 soft face bolt also helps.

[Vantage_TeS]

Do the new internals run at a different voltage? Or is it that the boards run a different voltage and the internals remain the same?

[drkanglr]

I'm not sure. If that's the case, I guess the retro kit for the IR3's and LCD's will be too rich for my blood. If they have to change internals and everything else, I would think that they'd just say "sorry, can't do it to that generation." Everything has it's limits, you can take an old case from a 1992 computer and put new drives, memory, and mother board to make it a better computer, so I don't know why you couldn't do the same w/ the new A4 board. I would think that you may run into the hardware limiting the software more than anything else, though.

[Vantage_TeS]

Well my guess as to why they are offering the retro kit for the a4 and speed but not the ir3 or lcd is because they DO use a different voltage and havent found a good way to convert the voltages yet.

The problem with simply swapping them is that the ir3 is longer, and the lcd is longer still so they use different SIZED internals as well as different voltages.

[Dark@ngel]

I would imagine the modified upgrade board will be able to use the 6v battery. The 4.5v is most likely lower voltage, because the new guns require less power, due to the shorter 14 way etc. So I think the upgrade boards that the master techs are making are going to run with that 6V battery, not only that it will become a drop in part as opposed to a "hmm, don't think this is gonna fit." part that you will have to "tweak" to get into the handle.

I'll either wait to see if they make them, or alternatively I'll sell my older toys and get a new custom.

[C.Carles-AOG]

Probably a good hypothesis right there...

[Spike Spiegel]

on the same topic... does the lcd SCREEN from an ir3 board fit in the old 2k2 lcd boards? in other words are the screens interchangeable? and someone said they thought you can basicly just drop an ir3 board in an lcd right? let me know if that can really be done... if no one knows ill find out hopefuly soon enough and post and let the rest of you guys know...

[Vantage_TeS]

Not sure about the screens, but yes you can take an IR3 board and put it in an LCD. Pretty sure it doesnt line up 100% due to the fact that the LCD is a 45 frame and the IR3 is a 90 or spaceframe, but it does work.

[Emmit]

no the screens are not interchangeable.

[Spike Spiegel]

:pileocrap... guess that means i still gotta get a new lcd screen then... lol... thanks emmit...

[Syentific]

U can put IR3< boards into and LCd frame with no problems. You can also buy RadioShack parts for less than $10 that will let you regulate voltage from 6v to 4.5v without much, if any, effort at all.

The real question to me is, why? Right now most if not all stock LCD's shoot faster than they should seeing as how they have no Sensi/Cops/IQ. Why would you want it to shoot any faster? The only thing you have to gain is to look at the next guy and say, "I have a A4 board in my LCD, what do you have?".