My speed you where going to fix.

[shortroundv6]

Hey rock this is the guy with the red speed (it had a red maxflo and smokin stickers on it) from madness. Remember I brought my gun to your room, and you didnt get a chance to look at it.

I fixed the gun going full auto issue (just needed some toe adjusting), but the thing is still destroying paint like a fool. Its not chopping, my halo is working correctly, it blast them with an egg on also, I tried turning up the dwell, I tried all the sensi modes, the sensi is clean and functioning, I calibrated the sensi, and Ive done pretty everything I have read try and fix the problem If you have any other suggestions I would love to hear them.

Thanks
short kid with the red speed.

Anybody else can help let me know Im totally out of ideas.

[cryptonomicon18]

turn the dwell down if it blasting the paint out thatll make the air more gentle on the ball. the way it should be.

[Jouster]

Hey rock this is the guy with the red speed (it had a red maxflo and smokin stickers on it) from madness. Remember I brought my gun to your room, and you didnt get a chance to look at it.

I fixed the gun going full auto issue (just needed some toe adjusting), but the thing is still destroying paint like a fool. Its not chopping, my halo is working correctly, it blast them with an egg on also, I tried turning up the dwell, I tried all the sensi modes, the sensi is clean and functioning, I calibrated the sensi, and Ive done pretty everything I have read try and fix the problem If you have any other suggestions I would love to hear them.

Thanks
short kid with the red speed.

Anybody else can help let me know Im totally out of ideas.
Is your minireg stuck? I.e., are you sure you're running at less than the tank output pressure? What's your velocity?

When you say "blast", what exactly do you mean? Barrel breaks? Is your barrel too small for the paint?

Jouster

[shortroundv6]

Okay sorry I forgot to mention, I have had the dwell set at every setting on the gun. Im not sure how turning the dwell down is easier on the ball. Dosnt that mean that the valve stays open a shorter amount of time and uses a smaller volume of gas which in turn requires a high pressure blast to propell the ball.

[shortroundv6]

The paint to bore match is fine tried several barrels and several bore sizes on my pipe. When the bolt or the gas (Im not sure which one) strikes the ball it blows up. I tried big ball paint and crucifier. I figured the crucifier might be to brittle but the big ball should have had a pretty tough shell. The breaks are close to the breach, but they arent chops. Im not finding much paint in the feed neck.

[shortroundv6]

The tank pressure is set at 375, running a max-flo and the velocity is around 270. I figure the mini-reg is working.

[Jouster]

Good responses.

What's your LPR set to? It sounds like it may be too high. Is there a lot of kick on the marker?

Jouster

[shortroundv6]

Im not exactly sure what the exact reading is, when I used the lpr tool kit it was set in the middle of 4 and 5 bars so I figre its between 58 and 72 psi probably 60 psi. Im going to check this again next week. I ordered the nice tool kit, like the one in your avator, and it should be here next week.

It does kick some but not too much. I will check the pressure again tonight if I get a chance.

Asuming its not that anything else it could be?

Also since Im running the max-flo Rocky said I should just turn the minireg all the way up and reg with the max-flo whats your opinion on this. And if it is a good way to run what should the output on the max-flo be?

Thanks

[52brandon]

can you describe more detailed how it chops? Does the egg you tried have z-board?

[shortroundv6]

Has a zboard. I wouldnt call what its doing as chopping. The bolt does not slice through the ball and "chop" it. Its more that when the bolt contacts the ball it smashes or breaks the ball. I say this because their is not much paint left in the feed neck, just some spray from the ball popping and the bolt returning. There is no shell or large amounts of paint in the feed neck, as is typical during a chop.

Im starting to lean toward the lpr thing to check it out again. But any suggestions are appreciated.

[shortroundv6]

well its seems my thread got moved, I was hoping rocky would respond since he did set the electronics stuff up at madness, but now if you having anything else to add I would post in my other thread about this, in the forum. I think its called "my paint destroying problem"

[52brandon]

try taking one shim out and try again, maybe up your dwell 1 too.

[shortroundv6]

See Ive tried all those things Im just wondering if I havent tried those things in the right combo. Anyone want to post their setup for me that works so I can try it?

[52brandon]

I have an A4, but they are generally the same gun. My settings are: longest volumizer, lpr at 55, tank output 300 minireg input around 200, dwell 17. I have had no problems with paint breaking when shooting. Maybe its your bolt too, try switching it with someone elses.

[Loki250]

check your breach to make sure that there isn't anything in there. If they are blowing up no matter what you do, you could possibly have a bur of some sort in the breach.

[shortroundv6]

Sounds good I will check it out.

[shortroundv6]

Hey checked the lpr again and found that it wasnt set up correctly. I had to take out all but two shims (is that normal). The gun still chops paint but atleast now I can start messing with my dwell and such with the pressure set right. I think Im going to stretch my springs out on my detents to see if that helps. Does anyone know if anyone other than warped sportz sells that iron cross detents (national, aps, etc.)?

[52brandon]

the iron cross detents are made by WS so probably not. I think it is just a cap without internals though. Be careful not to stretch your springs too far though, also you should really try a different bolt because it sounds like your bolt may be defective

[shortroundv6]

Yeah my a4 bolt will be here next week. I think the main thing that is going on now is that the sensi rod is puncturing the balls. You can see a small trial of paint before and after the sensi rod and then the paint explodes towards the front of the breach.

[shortroundv6]

Most of my problem was due to the fact that I was using a defective guage for testing my lpr pressure. It was set at 7.5 bars which is way to high.

[Jouster]

Most of my problem was due to the fact that I was using a defective guage for testing my lpr pressure. It was set at 7.5 bars which is way to high.
Yeah, that's why I was so surprised when you said it didn't have much kick. The bolt hitting the ball with too much force is a classic example of an LPR set too high.

Your current problems might be related. For instance, you might have prematurely worn the hammer face or valve stem. Re-set your ram, and check the exhaust valve for leaks.

Jouster

[RangerX]

check ball detents for scratches or nicks? did you strech the springs to far? maybe a little love juice on the detents?

dunno man, thats weird.

-RangerX

[shortroundv6]

Hey things are going better. Im kinda getting fed up with my sensi though, I know its doing its job but I just havnt been able to find a setting that I really like. I always feel like Im waiting on the gun to start shooting again. Who knows there might be something wrong with my halo. I turn the sensi off and I can shoot nice streams but I would like to have that security of not chopping paint. Anyone like a mode better than the next. Atleast the massive paint blending has stopped, I have no kick, and the gun is alot more efficient than what my shocker was.

[mhill65]

Mode 3 is what I like, it is for sustained rates of rapid fire, its pretty awesome.

[52brandon]

semi 2, only delays a very little, 1 and 3 delay a second

[bower23]

do you have a stock feed neck?

[shortroundv6]

No I have a ccm clamp, I really think there is something wrong with my halo

[bower23]

I'm going to start a thread in the speed section.... it will be called 'having problems chopping?' ... it might help.

[Jouster]

Hey things are going better. Im kinda getting fed up with my sensi though, I know its doing its job but I just havnt been able to find a setting that I really like. I always feel like Im waiting on the gun to start shooting again. Who knows there might be something wrong with my halo. I turn the sensi off and I can shoot nice streams but I would like to have that security of not chopping paint. Anyone like a mode better than the next. Atleast the massive paint blending has stopped, I have no kick, and the gun is alot more efficient than what my shocker was.
Fast, then slow, is the LDS kicking in. Just add two to your favorite mode number to turn LDS off. For instance, Semi 4 is Semi 2 with LDS turned off.

Switch to Semi 3 or Semi 4, and your pauses should go away.

Jouster

[shortroundv6]

Cool will do, today will be another big day of tinkering with the angel.