Items NOT included with Fly

[kevine]

Okay, I just picked up my Fly this morning (drove 3 hours on a Sunday a.m.)...

I was already aware of the Fly not coming with the 3-sum volumizers and instead, just coming with one large volumizer. I was also aware that the Fly came with a CD-ROM instead of the manual.

Must just be too expensive to add two short aluminum dildo's and a real manual.

But, much to my dismay, I see that mine did not have a gated feed...I'm talking about the small plastic o-ring with the nubs. It also did not have the bottom have of the orange o-ring inside the feed neck. It's my recollection that this is what was needed to hold the gated feed o-ring in place.

Wow, now that's pretty cheap!

I'm not done messing around with the thing, and I'm in the middle of printing the manual for myself. Hopefully, this will answer some questions.

In the meantime, anyone know where I can buy the bottom half of the orange o-rings inside the feed neck?

[52brandon]

maybe the fly rise doesnt need that stuff like the original rise. I noticed you said it worked perfect when you tried it out. Like the old saying goes "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." My 2 cents

[kevine]

I'm not going to mess with it anymore. I thought I was having a problem dry firing...I just had the front trigger wheel turned too close. I turned it one click away and fine tuned it with the toe. My manual is done printing...off to the bathroom to do my required reading!

[MoogLe]

did you check your spare parts for a gated feed? i know the older angels came with atleast 1 spare

[1boobfromSector 7-G]

I know that if you go to the wdp website and let the fly presention go though it shows down the feedneck and you don't see the gated feed.

[45speed]

I dont think it comes with a gated feed, dont think u need one, and u only get one half of the orange collar u need room for orings. Plus if i wasnt mistaken its a Fly why would u want to add unnessecary weight of another volumnizer for cosemetics, when the one flows so well with the cut and style of the marker.

[outcast]

You mean there's no regular manual anymore?

[kevine]

Actually, I don't use a volumizer. But it was nice to have the 3-sum just in case. As far as the manual, the marker comes with a CD-ROM with a pdf file. That's the manual.

There's no gated feed in the parts kit. I checked. And you're right, I don't think it comes with it, or the bottom half of the orange o-ring.

[mamba_juice]

the fly was designed to be used on a halo, so the gated feed was unnecissary. as for the orings, i dont know why they did that unless it's not needed...so most likely it isnt needed. a volumizer kit would be nice, but they really arent that expensive

[kevine]

It may have been designed for a Halo, but my Egg and z-board seem to be working pretty nice.

[PolecatR1]

No gated feed required, so no second orange (I thought it was red!) collar required.

The manual is being printed as we speak, and I believe you can request one if you need one.

[gik4]

and as far as the different volumizers, i dont think many people were using the 2 smaller ones

the one that it comes with is supposed to have the same air capacity of the largest volumizer from the a4

the fly was intended to run at super low pressures, and the 2 smaller volumizers were probably seen as a step back

why would you want a gun that runs at over 60 psi in the lpr when you can run the fly at like 35

[Jouster]

and as far as the different volumizers, i dont think many people were using the 2 smaller ones

the one that it comes with is supposed to have the same air capacity of the largest volumizer from the a4

the fly was intended to run at super low pressures, and the 2 smaller volumizers were probably seen as a step back

why would you want a gun that runs at over 60 psi in the lpr when you can run the fly at like 35
Volumizers and the LPR are 99.9% unrelated.

Jouster

[PaulyAngelTech]

The fly does not have a gated feed because it is a low rise feed neck and there is no room for it. The manual was not printed in time for the release of the gun WDP will be printing a manual and it will be available to anyone you purchased a Fly.
The operating pressure is all ready low at about 55 psi out of the box You do not need more than 1 voulmeizer for the fly because the gas gallery is no longer diverted like it is in the A4 and speed.

[kevine]

Okay, I should have noticed this a few days ago, when I first picked up the gun. But there's no warranty card in the box? This was purchased from a friend who owns a paintball store. It was sold brand new, so I know I'm the first owner. Anyone know where I can get a warranty card?

[Sparco]

actually... you can file for your warranty via WDP's website now versus mailing in a card.

http://www.wdp.tv/warranty/new/customer/login.php

They just don't advertise the link very well, but it was present on the A4/Speed warranty card and I wrote it down.

[PaulyAngelTech]

Okay, I should have noticed this a few days ago, when I first picked up the gun. But there's no warranty card in the box? This was purchased from a friend who owns a paintball store. It was sold brand new, so I know I'm the first owner. Anyone know where I can get a warranty card?

E-mail frazer@wdp.tv he will let you know how to start your warranty.

[kevine]

Thanks Sparco and Pauly. I've registered for the website, but just need to wait until I get home to find the serial number on the box. Thanks again.

[Jouster]

The fly does not have a gated feed because it is a low rise feed neck and there is no room for it. The manual was not printed in time for the release of the gun WDP will be printing a manual and it will be available to anyone you purchased a Fly.
Yup. There was even talk of them being shipped out for free, I believe. Of course, you've already got one on CD; do you really need a printed copy? Just more dead trees.

The operating pressure is all ready low at about 55 psi out of the box You do not need more than 1 voulmeizer for the fly because the gas gallery is no longer diverted like it is in the A4 and speed.
What do volumizers and the LPR channel have to do with one another?

Jouster

[52brandon]

Jouster, correct me if I am wrong, but don't volumizers add more room for air in your gun allowing you to lowere the pressure? Just the impression I was under. Also, how do you run your gun so low? I noticed in another post you run it at 38, did you get a fly?

[Jouster]

Jouster, correct me if I am wrong, but don't volumizers add more room for air in your gun allowing you to lowere the pressure? Just the impression I was under. Also, how do you run your gun so low? I noticed in another post you run it at 38, did you get a fly?
Volumizers allow you to add more room for air in the main pressure chamber. Because of this increased volume of air, yes, you can lower the main pressure; the minimum LPR pressure, however, is 99.9% unaffected.

As for my LPR pressure: the thread in which I detailed my procedure (http://www.angel-owners.com/showthread.php?t=21184) got closed. Bah humbug. And, no, this is not a Fly.

BTW, read through AngelFAQ.com (http://www.AngelFAQ.com)'s "How Your Angel Works". That ought to make things a bit more clear.

Jouster