So how's it performing?

[outcast]

Hi guys.
So how's everyone's Fly's performing? Is it living up to all the hype? Any potential problems that you see? Any dislikes? Just curious before I drop the cash for one.

Thanks!

[Jetwing@Impactpaintball]

well i dont own one but i was able to test shoot one at impact, man... sick, just sick. so fast the tank couldnt cycle fast nuff to keep up. drools... but as far as performance and problems in the long run i got no clue =P

[Benfrain]

Testing one currently for PBNation review, used it all today - it mows, excellent consistency, as fast as you pull the trigger. Best Angel yet. :)

[45speed]

Only problem i have is getting to use it, everyone wants to try it out and use it. No problems with it yet, everyone loves it.

[kevine]

I picked mine up this a.m. Right out of the box, hooked up my Angel AIR, an Egg w/z-board and 1500 rounds of Cobra Snake Eggs (2 weeks old) and ripped through it in Mode 1. Factory settings with 440 psi going into the marker.

Perfect.

[outcast]

Sounds cool guys! Some of the pictures I see online show a 12'' stock barrel, while others seem to show a 14''. Which one does it come with, and how good is it? Anyone know what bore size the stock barrels are?

[kevine]

looks like a 14 inch to me...not sure about bore size

[45speed]

12 inch came with mine, a 14 inch looks to big on it.

[outcast]

Are there any problems with loaders? I read that it was built for a Halo, but will stock Eggs and Revy's still work good?

[Benfrain]

If memory serves the Infinity barrel (stock) uses a 690 or 691 bore. It will work fine with whatever loader you use but just remember that it can only fire paint as fast as your loader permits. If you use a 12v revi you will be severly under-feeding it's firing capabilities.

[outcast]

Thanks Benfrain!
Yeah i totally understand about the Revi thing. Just making sure I know all my options beforehand.

Hmmm.. Looks like there's two different length stock barrels going around.

[Emmit]

the Fly stock barrel is supposed to be a 12 inch, while the 4 stock barrel was supposed to be 14.

[PolecatR1]

The JD FLY barrel is 14in.

[Emmit]

The JD FLY barrel is 14in.
yeah but I think that they also mentioned it was a different barrel as well...at least that what the guy posting here said:wink:

plus since the JD is basically a custom, I wouldn't really consider that a stock.

[JackalVR6]

Used mine at the GPL and whoever was there knows that it was a ☼☼☼☼ty cold day! I only had one break (premium pmi) all day while the lcd's, speeds, imps, 4's, were have a lot more trouble than me. The eye is working ten times better than the sensi !! The best Angel yet no doubt!

[45speed]

If he chooses to use a revy there is settings for different feed hoppers, so u set ur Fly up with what loader u r using. It should compensate for it otherwise they wouldnt have programed it into the board. Pretty nice option if u ask me.

[kevine]

I was hitting decent rates of fire with my egg with z-board. I thought about getting a Halo for it, but Halo's just have too many problems. Eggs seem to be more reliable, albeit a little slower. But I figure if I can't hit the target with 17-20 balls per second, 25 isn't going to help me!!!

[Clowndog]

Finally!! Someone with some common sense. Dont get me wrong, I love being able to RIP em when I have to but I find that 15 to 17 bps is as good as I can do and still be accurate. After that I start spazing out and my balls fling out everywhere.

[kevine]

I also find that when I hit higher rates, I'm re-loading more often. This means there's more gaps between my streams of paint. This is obviously when the opponent decides to move on me. Since I play back on my team, I need to have my gun up, rather than being re-loaded. Yes, I'm practicing loading and shooting at the same time!

[Sparco]

My Fly came with a 12" barrel, others I saw came with 14" barrels.

No paint through it yet, but if anyone was at the tech class you saw my marker on DEMO when Owen was fooling around with it. Words can't describe this marker's paint slinging ability if that was an indication!

[Jouster]

No paint through it yet, but if anyone was at the tech class you saw my marker on DEMO when Owen was fooling around with it. Words can't describe this marker's paint slinging ability if that was an indication!
:drools:

*zombie-like trance* Must... have... Force... Fly...! Must... Have... Force... Fly...!

[45speed]

Did any of u guys have an A4 before the Fly, if u did does it sound louder? I lowered my dwell to 10 works great. Was wondering if was because of 12 in barrel or is it just me?

[outcast]

If he chooses to use a revy there is settings for different feed hoppers, so u set ur Fly up with what loader u r using. It should compensate for it otherwise they wouldnt have programed it into the board. Pretty nice option if u ask me.


What kind of Hopper settings are there?

[Sparco]

Std. - Medium - Fast - Super Fast

Std. = Gravity Fed
Medium = 12v Revolution
Fast = X/Y Evolution
SFast = HALO B/Evolution Z

Honestly... I'd only recommend SFAST for the HALO owners, Fast is plenty fast!

[kevine]

Mine came with a 12" barrel. Hey 45speed, I had a stock A4 as of two weeks ago and I ran a 12" JT barrel. I have the settings almost identical on my Fly with the same dwell...10...but I don't notice a difference in sound. Seems very similar.

[outcast]

Hey guys, thanks!
Can the Fly be damaged in anyway, if you have to play in the rain? Are the eye covers on snug enough that water won't get in? I know I seen videos of Dynasty playing in rain and mud with their Speeds and LCD's, but I'm not sure if they had to do anything to protect them.

Oh yeah, if you get a weird ball that happens to break in the breech, can the eyes just be cleaned off and work again, or do you have to replace them? Anyone know how much spares cost? :biggthump

[Emmit]

everything can be cleaned, that's the wonder of the removeable system they have.

you can play in the rain, don't worry about it...I don't see why people seem to freak about it, it's not going to hurt anything since all the electronics are on the inside

[Sparco]

As Emmit stated, you can play in the rain. The eyes on the Fly are designed to 'punch' through debris, paint or grit. In other words, should you explode a ball in the breech the eyes should still function perfectly fine. You do have the ability to override the eyes should you feel as though they're not performing during the middle of a game.

Press and hold the trigger for 3 seconds, it'll fire a shot when the eyes have been disabled. Keep in mind that this now sets your MROF to whatever you have it set to in the board.

Removal and cleaning of the eyes is very easy and should you damage the ribbon or ZIF plug expect to pay $35-$45 for a new eye system, that's the price I've heard thrown around.

www.angel-owners.com/images/angel_eyez

You can take a look at how easy they are to 'service'

[kevine]

Hey Sparco, if you were to break a ball, would just cleaning the breach be sufficient? Or is removal of the eyes to clean necessary? I was wondering if compressed air (like the stuff for your keyboard) would be enough to clean out the hole for the eyes in the breech rather than having to remove the eyes from the outside. Just curious.

Also, for those of you who need to dry fire, don't waste your time putting it in demo mode. Just keep it in Mode 1 and hold the trigger for a couple seconds. It turns the eyes off and it will dry fire, like a regular 4. Nice feature! However, once you put it on safe or turn the marker off, when you put it back to live, the eyes will be back on.

[Jouster]

Hey Sparco, if you were to break a ball, would just cleaning the breach be sufficient? Or is removal of the eyes to clean necessary? I was wondering if compressed air (like the stuff for your keyboard) would be enough to clean out the hole for the eyes in the breech rather than having to remove the eyes from the outside. Just curious.
Yes, you only have to clean the breech to get everything up and running again. That said, obviously, you don't want paint to sit inside your gun for a week between games, so you'd probably pop out the eyes and clean them at your convenience.

The thing to remember here is that the Angel's running off of a 4.8 volt NiMH battery that's pumping out amps like there's no tomorrow. Unlike our competitors running on alkaline 9 volts, who have to conserve energy by using low-power eyes, we're running ours at 8x the power of the most powerful of theirs (and still getting 300,000 shots off a single charge). Dirt and paint sort of pale in comparison to the power of this beam; you will never have to remove your eyes to clean them in the middle of a day of play.

Jouster

[Sparco]

Kevine... assuming the eyes pass then they're ready to rock. Obviously you want the breech and eye channel to be as clean as possible. Swipe a Q-Tip in there in a pinch and/or a blast with a compressed air canister (desktop ones).

[kevine]

Thanks...just trying to figure out things that I can do short of having to take the gun apart!

[outcast]

Damn, sounds cool guys! Thanks for the help!