View Full Version : Sensi vs Eye
Dj Pyro
03-31-2004, 11:18 PM
Is sensi really that good? Beacuse i have been thinking about getting mine aced and "wasd", i have a friend that did it on a speed demon and loves them.
mpire123
04-01-2004, 12:04 AM
I haven't chopped in over 8 cases. Works for me. Just make sure you take the time to calibrate it.
cveale
04-01-2004, 12:41 AM
They are a bit harder to keep running perfectly. You have to check them regularly to make sure they are still working as well as keep the rod and SENSI strip clean. They work fine, just a bit more maintenance is all.
thog94
04-01-2004, 12:55 AM
Have you had any problems since using the sensi? If it's working for you leave it alone. If you want eyes, wait until the MT's come out with the retro fit instead of getting it ace/was'd.
IwanaANGEL
04-01-2004, 01:00 AM
Have you had any problems since using the sensi? If it's working for you leave it alone. If you want eyes, wait until the MT's come out with the retro fit instead of getting it ace/was'd.
yep, i already told u this dy pyro
PlazmaSpeed
04-01-2004, 01:15 AM
Is sensi really that good? Beacuse i have been thinking about getting mine aced and "wasd", i have a friend that did it on a speed demon and loves them.
just wait for the eyes man.
Dj Pyro
04-01-2004, 01:54 AM
I had an led until like a 2 months a go... Sold it and bought a speed but haven't had money to use it yet... but a friend got an eye + was and loves it so... just finding out pro's + con's of both
cyeh01
04-01-2004, 05:38 AM
I'm wondering if the WDP EyeQ or the WAS board + ACE are faster than the stock Speed/A4's. My Speed has never chopped, so the only consideration for me is the greater rate of fire... if it does in fact offer a greater rate of fire???
PlazmaSpeed
04-01-2004, 09:22 AM
I'm wondering if the WDP EyeQ or the WAS board + ACE are faster than the stock Speed/A4's. My Speed has never chopped, so the only consideration for me is the greater rate of fire... if it does in fact offer a greater rate of fire???
Sensi or Eye != BPS
They're anti-chop systems, if anything an anti-chop system would make you shoot slower because you'd pull the trigger and nothing would happen. The Speed and A4 I believe shoot 30bps, and the Fly shoots 31. The problem with that is where are you going to find a reliable loader that shoots that fast? They just don't have it. Its true when they say that hopper technology is falling far behind that of markers, I believe loaders the fastest ones are at like 26 if you count the Q-loader.
cyeh01
04-01-2004, 03:56 PM
PlazmaSpeed,
Based on theory yes no one shoots over 20+ balls a second consistently anyway, so you're never going to outshoot your Speed/A4 especially when no loader is that fast.
HOWEVER cveale brought up an interesting point in another post by mentioning his sensi was detecting balls a little slower because the tip had been flattened and pounded by balls over time. Now I have no actual proof of this happening but could this be a substantial difference in bps over time? maybe.
Anyway, I've never chopped in over 10 cases so there needs to be some other value in an eye than anti-chop. Aside from that I can't move my fingers 20 times per second except on bursts so I don't know what I'm going to do with that extra few bps???
Charles
angelsmurf
04-01-2004, 04:38 PM
You've paid alot of money for your speed - if it aint broke dont fix it! I cant understand the point of having an eye- is'nt it just something else to f**k up during a game ? I've had no probs with sensi, and if you can outshoot an eggloader i'd be surprised...
Stick with the sensi - simple, and it works. what more is there to be said?
cyeh01
04-01-2004, 07:38 PM
angelsmurf said it best... "if it ain't broke don't fix it" and no I can't outshoot my egg2 even when I had the Y board...
personally I think there are 2 1/2 boats:
1) The latest and greatest: In one boat you got those who just want the latest and greatest. These people don't care that their A4/Speed with Sensi work fine, they just want newest fad and the EyeQ fits this description so they're going to get it. 'nuff said.
2) Sensi haters: Most of these kids don't really understand Sensi and therefore they hate on it. They don't read their manuals and usually aren't too bright. When their markers break, mom and dad will get them a new one usually a better one.
1/2) These people have REAL gripes with Sensi because they've had bad experiences and dislike how it needs to be setup properly to work with Halos. It's only a 1/2 boat because most people who were in this boat eventually figure out how to fix their issues or wind up in one of the other two boats.
I think the above scenarios only apply to those who are looking to get an eye on their current Speeds/A4s. I think some of us are still shocked that WDP went against their Sensi by going with the EyeQ and some of us even feel a little "betrayed" if you can use that word albeit a little extreme... after all most of us (the owners) have stuck up for Sensi and still consider ourselves die-hards that will stick with our Sensi through thick and thin. That's kind of why it feels awkward that WDP decided to bring in an anti-chop system.
Okay enough rambing... just my .02
Charles
jdp72
04-01-2004, 07:50 PM
The problem with that is where are you going to find a reliable loader that shoots that fast? They just don't have it. Its true when they say that hopper technology is falling far behind that of markers, I believe loaders the fastest ones are at like 26 if you count the Q-loader.
When is the Victory Board coming out for the HALO???
Also, I don't feel betrayed at all that WDP developed the EyeQ system. They are just doing what their fans have been asking for... I'm not sure if Dynasty started this craze or not, but since all these kids are retrofitting their beloved Angel's...WDP might as well just cut through the middle man and do it straight from the factory.
I love my Sensi, and don't feel the urge to switch over to the new technology until I know for sure it is an "upgrade" and not just a lateral-trade. In a over a year of owning my Speed and 4 months of owning my F4 I am happy with how they perform, so why mess with that???
shaneOK
04-01-2004, 08:12 PM
hmm, i can EASILY outshoot my y-board egg,and i can outshoot my z, its just a little bit harder, now my halo, thats another story
Dj Pyro
04-01-2004, 09:09 PM
So noone thinks an eye is a better anti-chop than sensi?
P.S. I'm not looking for the newest stuff. An eye just sounds more reliable to me, no calibration, no right setting, no getting used to it. An eye is either on or off, no modes , no chopping. But as long as it 'never' chops on sensi then is not praticle to put in an eye anyway. So you all have had really good luck with your sensi? Not to sound like i dont own a speed(just to broke to shoot it) but does it work?
laysomepaint
04-02-2004, 12:10 AM
sensi is a little more maintenance heavy than eyes, but will continue to work 99% of the time after a break. I have played games where i forget that i had my sensi off, and chop 2-3 times off the break (y-board egg doesnt keep up with me in long, sustained strings). I turned the sensi on, and it worked great even with paint everywhere. My accuracy was a different story.
Eyes, of course, require less maintenance, but usually will not work after a break.
Its your call, but if it aint broke, don't fix it is right. The only reason i might get the retrofit is because i plan on getting the A4 board, and if the retrofit isnt much more, i may be inclined to get it done
BuNkErEd
04-03-2004, 12:12 AM
Sensi or Eye != BPS
They're anti-chop systems, if anything an anti-chop system would make you shoot slower because you'd pull the trigger and nothing would happen. The Speed and A4 I believe shoot 30bps, and the Fly shoots 31. The problem with that is where are you going to find a reliable loader that shoots that fast? They just don't have it. Its true when they say that hopper technology is falling far behind that of markers, I believe loaders the fastest ones are at like 26 if you count the Q-loader.odyssey just made a new board for the halo....35 bps.
jdp72
04-03-2004, 01:06 AM
odyssey just made a new board for the halo....35 bps.
Yup, Victory Board... I think we already covered that...
Icehawk
04-03-2004, 01:20 AM
Like 'laysomepaint' said, Eyes are easier to take care of but are screwed if you get paint in there. Sensi works fine just so long as you don't mind giving it the little extra attention.
My main question is why is everyone so stuck on WAS? If I ever decided to retrofit a timmy board into my demon, I'd have to go with the Entrophy board. Just from the little experience I've had with it, I've noticed that it has a significantly shorter boot-up time, not to mention some of the best eye logic I've seen EVER. Is there anything I'm missing that makes the WAS boards superior to everything?
LowBudget
04-03-2004, 11:22 AM
WAS vs. Entropy
We actually have a couple of Speeds with Entropy boards. The reason to use an Entropy is that the WAS's eye is disabled by holding the bolt forward and pulling the trigger a few times. This isn't practical in the Angels. The Entropy can be disabled by holding the trigger down for 3 seconds.
As far as eye logic goes. I really don't think any stand above the rest, but all are a drastic improvement over the boards we were using years ago.
Also WAS/ACE is a bit too pbnation-trendwhore for my tastes :tongue2:
Skinny C
04-04-2004, 06:03 PM
sensi rocks !!!!!
Dj Pyro
04-12-2004, 01:00 AM
Who makes the "best" eye???
BuNkErEd
04-12-2004, 01:22 AM
i think an eye is an eye basically. i dont think one company makes a better eye than another one.
mpire123
04-12-2004, 02:49 AM
Whatever prevents you from chopping is what is best. And what prevents me from chopping is my trusty SENSi.
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