choice of tank?

[Jukie]

I am guessing that a standard LP preset tank will still be the way to go. Without the guage the only way to know the true input pressure is to dial the mini reg down and adjust at the tank if you have an adjustable tank.

I know that I would have a very hard time setting up my current Impulse if I did not know the input pressure. Maybe with Angels they are not that hard to set up??

Maybe the 40.00 guage and a preset is the way to go vs spending 350.00 on a below average adjustable.

Any recommendations on a good adjustable that is reasonably priced. I was going to get an A4 with Angel air but now that the fly came out I will have to get that and a lesser air system.

Jukie

[52brandon]

get a used AIR. They are about 200-250, or you could get a new preset AIR, being made specifically for Angels, it should take a lot of the guessing out of the process.

[winter001]

A MacDev Gladiator is one of the best adjustable tanks on the market, it has an extremely high flow rate, a fully balanced regulator, and is one of the most consistant regulators available. A 68/45 setup runs about $380, madcocker.com has them, as well as our sponsor fixmyangel.com. I love mine, its easy to adjust, has an innovative on/off, and really nice easy to read gauges. Its also very small and very light, making it ideal for something like a Fly. Sorry, if that sounded like a sales pitch, but I really do love that tank. www.macdev.net

-Chris

[Emmit]

most adjustable tanks have an output gauge on them I believe so I don't see where it would be so hard to figure out what your pressure is. You set your output pressure to 350-400psi and off you go to the chrono and adjust your minireg accordingly.

[Syentific]

Has anyone heard anything about the 04 Maxys? I just picked up a 04 maxflo reg and I am going to put it on a 88/45 bottle i have lying around. I sold my other maxfl on the premise that the new one could only KICK ARSE, but I hope I didnt jump the gun... :sure:

[pgaglio]

Any recommendations on a good adjustable that is reasonably priced.

Jukie

Nitro Duck X-stream. It's adjustable, it's relatively inexpensive, it has great flow and a very nice bottle. Hard to beat for the $$.

http://www.shootpaint.com/pd1970163005.htm?defaultVariants=search0_EQ_68/45_AND_%7BEOL%7D&categoryId=0

[Jukie]

I was checking out the Mac Dev.....nice bottle. So how hard is it to get the bottle off the rail? I like screw ins because they can easily be taken off the marker at the end of the day...etc.

The nitro duck seems to have a very long regulator....am i wrong? I have looked at them before online but never gave them a second look.


Thanks,
Jukie

[pgaglio]

the MacDevs are great, I'd prefer one over a Nitro Duck, but they cost nearly twice as much.

I don't have my tank here in front of me, but I don't remember the Nitro Duck reg being noticeably longer than other screw ins I have (PMI, Crossfire). If it is, then it can't be much, maybe a half inch.

Another good way to go would be a Crossfire LP pre-set.

Also, I have experience with Impulses and you're right that setting up that gun w/o the gauge on the max flo would be a hassle. However, with the Speed the gauge isn't really necessary. When your LPR and dwell are set (it's nice to have a tool kit for setting up your LPR if you want to change from the factory settings), you just adjust the mini reg to increase or decrease velocity. The pressure coming from the tank into the mini-reg should be around the 350-450 psi range and that can be determined by looking at the reg on the tank (in the case of the Nitro Duck) or simply by the fact that it is the pre-set pressure coming from the reg (in the case of the crossfire).

[Jukie]

Thanks!! With my impy....I had to adjust input pressure, dwell and LPR to get it where I wanted it. If you adjusted one the others tended to need adjusting. I got very use to working with my Impulse....but maybe the Angel is not as fussy. To think that I could just adjust the mini reg to get my velocity is like a dream come true.

From what people have said the crossfire LP is the way to go. Cheap, reliable and preset to 450psi. I thought I would need a tank I could see the input pressure since this Angel wont have an input guage.

Do I really need a tool kit? If I am ok with the stock setting from the MT (plan to get MT Fly) I should be good.

Jukie

[pgaglio]

Do I really need a tool kit? If I am ok with the stock setting from the MT (plan to get MT Fly) I should be good.

Jukie I bought a tool kit just to experiment with other LPR settings on my Speeds. The kit comes with a valve removal tool, a ram adjustment tool and the LPR pressure gauge. There are ways to remove the valve w/o the tool and other ways to adjust the ram, also w/o the tool. Since you're going to get an MT Fly, you'll probably be very happy with the factory settings. After all, you can always buy a kit later if you need it.

[Sparco]

I recommend the tool kit, especially if you intend to learn about how your marker works. I frequently find myself loaning out my tool kit to teammates or people at the field when they discover I have one. Perhaps you could find a teammate or local player (that you trust) to split the cost of a tool kit?

Regarding the 450psi LP preset, I highly recommend it. Quite frankly, after owning adjustable air systems for almost 3 years I regret invest all that money. You'll be fine with a preset... just make sure it's the low pressure for the Speed/A4 and th high pressure for the LCD/IR3.

I've also found that a good rule of thumb for estimated 350psi is to back the mini-reg screw out to be flush with the body. Two full turns in on mine was approximately 350psi input.

[eyesonlybob]

when these tanks say adjustible, how do you adjust them?

i have a crossfire tank from my previous led angel which has an output pressure of 800psi. it is the red regulator, is this adjustible?

[garrick]

get the angel preset. i got mine from performance angel. thanks ken. it works great on my impy and speed. no problems. hard to get but worth it. 5 yrs tank as well

[pgaglio]

when these tanks say adjustible, how do you adjust them?

i have a crossfire tank from my previous led angel which has an output pressure of 800psi. it is the red regulator, is this adjustible?

No it's not. However, you can send it to Crossfire and they will put an LP spring kit in it that will drop the output to 450 psi.

An adjustable tank would be one like the Angel AIR, the MaxFlo, or the ND X-stream where the user can easily adjust the output pressure, usually by turning a knob or some other means.