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KEN CRANE
03-09-2004, 02:19 PM
The Angel A4 Fly


heres some specs and info on the fly




Introduction to Angel-Eyes - A break-beam Optical system like no other

Angel-Eyes - A dynamic pro-active operation that constantly self-adjusts to the feed rate of your loader, to guarantee a no-chop operation.
Due to the Fly’s rechargeable Metal Hydride power supply the Angel-Eyes break-beam is so powerful it can sometimes be seen with the naked eye. It will see through paint, grease, dirt and debris. No other eye system can match the Angels EyeQ. Only the finest optical components have been used, to ensure Angel quality. A profiled flexible polymer cover prevents damage from paint or impact.

The Powerful Angel-Eyes system is controlled by the new Fly Board, the fastest, most intelligent and user friendly board ever devised, with achievable fire rates up to 31bps*
*Governed only by loading system.

This new technology is packed tightly into the smallest, lightest Angel ever.

Fact - The Fly can cycle and fire paintballs faster than any other paintball marker.
There are 2 reasons for this.
Fact - Due to its design, the Angel has a shorter firing Cycle time than any other paintball marker.
Fact - EyeQ works differently to other eye systems. There is no fixed ‘delay’ built into the cycle time. EyeQ uses new technology to replace the traditional delay used by all other eye systems, further increasing rate of fire.


Also included

'Laid Back’ Slayer trigger
6 modes of fire
14” Infinity Barrel
Modified Anti-JamTwin Anti-Double-Balls
Custom Fly Back-plate.
20 De-bounce settings for Xtreme fire rates (where permitted)
Ultra Safe Store Demonstration Mode – The Fly will dry-fire at an insane rate, to offer the store customer a true reflection of its awesome firepower, but will not fire if a ball is present.

crashdan
03-09-2004, 02:26 PM
sounds great... i especially like the store demo mode

SkeL
03-09-2004, 03:07 PM
Found this on paintball star as well. There is a nice picture there too.

freeloader12345
03-09-2004, 03:32 PM
is that trigger the one Robert had on the A4 at L.A. Open???

that trigger was sick!

mhill65
03-09-2004, 03:33 PM
I still hope I can put a fly board and eyes in my speed :( i love it too much to give it up.

freeloader12345
03-09-2004, 03:57 PM
i just want to have a nice upgrade for my IR3 and LCD! board and eyes.

Buddha 5
03-09-2004, 04:12 PM
Any word on colours yet? I'm hoping there will be a dust orange one....

gomergomes
03-09-2004, 04:29 PM
well..,obviously you know one of the new "colours" for the Fly4..,I hope the new twin detents are a backwardcomp. part depending ouf course on how the retrofit deal come out

Xquisit
03-09-2004, 04:35 PM
I wanna sell my guuuuunnn...this is making me so sad lol..i want one!!!, bet the price will cost an arm and a leg...

gomergomes
03-09-2004, 04:42 PM
correction..,2 colors have been shown so far..,red and gun medal

pgaglio
03-09-2004, 06:44 PM
thanks Ken, good stuff

dynastySSS
03-09-2004, 07:11 PM
so sick cant wait for updates :) man i love angels!!!!!!!!!!!!! eat this timmys:thefinger:thefinger

Woogie12
03-09-2004, 07:18 PM
correction..,2 colors have been shown so far..,red and gun medal
I think black dust as well.

Vanilla Bloke
03-09-2004, 07:21 PM
holy crap. go to wdp;s site and watch that video, just sick!

dynastySSS
03-09-2004, 07:21 PM
haha man that is sweet look http://www.wdp.tv/fly/

crim
03-09-2004, 07:55 PM
those ropes of paint look like laser beams lmao, thats so sick man, im definitely going for buying one of these babys

Emperors Champion
03-09-2004, 08:35 PM
Can anybody tell me if they heard about the new batch of Force 4s being anything like the new Fly or better? I have a Speed at the moment and I love it. Yesterday I ordered a new Force 4 but they were sold out so I am on the list for a Force 4 from the new batch.Can anyone give me a little hint as to what I might expect? :secrets:

Black Dust Speed
Team OVERDRIVE

Angels Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MoogLe
03-09-2004, 09:10 PM
Can anybody tell me if they heard about the new batch of Force 4s being anything like the new Fly or better? I have a Speed at the moment and I love it. Yesterday I ordered a new Force 4 but they were sold out so I am on the list for a Force 4 from the new batch.Can anyone give me a little hint as to what I might expect? :secrets:

Black Dust Speed
Team OVERDRIVE

Angels Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
check ken's latest thread

basically the new force's will also have eyes as well as all the past features and possibly some new stuff he hasnt anounced yet

pbmatt74
03-09-2004, 09:33 PM
Waiting List? Where do I sign? I can do it in blood if I need to.:drools:

Xquisit
03-09-2004, 09:41 PM
Man I just don't have enough money, and by the time I do get enough money, it will be considered out dated which pisses me off even more, so I don't see in buying another gun when there will just be another, nicer, faster angel being created...bah

Emperors Champion
03-09-2004, 09:44 PM
Thanks for the input guys.

AngelsRDbest!!!!!! :hititraw:

Emperors Champion
03-09-2004, 09:56 PM
Man I just don't have enough money, and by the time I do get enough money, it will be considered out dated which pisses me off even more, so I don't see in buying another gun when there will just be another, nicer, faster angel being created...bah

When I was married I had no money for me and no time for paintball. Now that I'm divorced from that B**CH , I have the time and the money. :boink:

Here's to TIMMIES and EXWIVES :thefinger

IwanaANGEL
03-09-2004, 10:39 PM
Sounds like these eyes will be better than Hk or WS mods...

now i want my speed to have eyes :cry:

jdub23
03-09-2004, 10:43 PM
yea i wonder if will be able to put the new angel eyes in our speeds.. because that would be a real nice upgrade

dark2k2LCD
03-09-2004, 11:09 PM
i think thats one freakin ugly gun,

i can't wait for the force to come out. Milling+fade anno+Fly ACE+secret goodies= the most pimptasmal marker

DeDSoL
03-09-2004, 11:11 PM
I guess we are all thinking the same obvious thing; a pimptastic upgrade, take out the eyes and board of the fly... and make a sick upgrade into the shiznit Eyes Onto the ShIzNiT FORCE! (cauz im not to fond of the fly body) :biggthump , now i have me sweet azz force ... then with the fly parts ././. HolY BeetleJuice!

ArchaneAngel
03-09-2004, 11:58 PM
not fond of the fly body? that body, imo is beautiful, work of art

dako6680
03-10-2004, 01:04 AM
I wonder if the new fly will be more Halo compatible. Now that there is no sensi rod to worry about. The vid looks like they were not using an egg so Im wondering if halo will finally work.

mychemicalromance
03-10-2004, 01:15 AM
.... they were using a halo u can see it plain as day.... anyway thats not the point... now i only have one more request from wdp..... and that is to either make some with 45 frame stock..... or offer some matched anno aftermarket 45 frames.... i miss them =[ and yeah i do know about the cobra.... but it has the gay built in snatch

gomergomes
03-10-2004, 01:55 AM
why go backwards the space frame is ergonomic

djblotter
03-10-2004, 12:15 PM
who do have to sell my first born too?(sorry Marc) the gypsies? DAMMIT! i just bought a MTA4 Grrrrr I hope they are gonna make a retro fit kit. Ken help me out here retro fit kit :biggthump

jason63
03-10-2004, 01:12 PM
I thought it was a slayer trigger.. it says it in the specs...

Anyways

Jason

Sparco
03-10-2004, 01:14 PM
It's a slayer trigger, you can see the trigger better on the red fly photo.

Wadesimmons
03-10-2004, 01:18 PM
omg thats nice

price?

gomergomes
03-10-2004, 01:57 PM
its laid back as well for extream RTF,check the pics

IamNoAngel
03-10-2004, 01:57 PM
it's definately the slayer trigger the dirt has that bump further down on it.

JTp8ntballer12
03-10-2004, 02:57 PM
i want a .45 too, i hate the space frame so much.

i like how the fly dont have the guage though, and that it has a smaller feed neck that dont look so bulky

Woogie12
03-10-2004, 05:44 PM
They announced it was the slayer trigger on www.pbstar.com

Emmit
03-10-2004, 06:08 PM
They announced it was the slayer trigger on www.pbstar.com
heck even the first post in this thread says it's a Slayer Trigger....why is there even arguement about WDP putting something not WDP on their marker:confused:

SkeL
03-10-2004, 07:29 PM
When I was married I had no money for me and no time for paintball. Now that I'm divorced from that B**CH , I have the time and the money. :boink:

Here's to TIMMIES and EXWIVES :thefinger
Right on :drink:
Only a few more days guys, few more days....

tgaffner
03-10-2004, 07:48 PM
Anyone know the weight of it?

DeDSoL
03-10-2004, 08:45 PM
i would guess more then the a4... due to the less extensive milling... so like 3 lbs

mrtheoutlaw
03-10-2004, 09:18 PM
the fly has always been a lighter weight version of a stock angel, so I doub't that the fly 4 weights more than the stock 4

Emperors Champion
03-10-2004, 10:42 PM
I wonder if the new fly will be more Halo compatible. Now that there is no sensi rod to worry about. The vid looks like they were not using an egg so Im wondering if halo will finally work.

Should I not be using my HALO on my Speed? Could it damage my sensi rod or what? I joined this site for just this reason.To talk to other Angel owners and learn from you guys. :bowdown:

Black Dust Speed
Team OVERDRIVE

Angels....today.....tomarrow......forever rule!!!!!

pgaglio
03-10-2004, 10:46 PM
If you haven't had any problems with the Halo, keep using it. Some people have trouble with Halos, some don't. Sounds like you're one of the fortunate ones who don't.

thog94
03-10-2004, 10:50 PM
Should I not be using my HALO on my Speed? Could it damage my sensi rod or what? I joined this site for just this reason.To talk to other Angel owners and learn from you guys. :bowdown:

Black Dust Speed
Team OVERDRIVE

Angels....today.....tomarrow......forever rule!!!!!


It's a 50/50 shot with the Halo. Some members have no problems and others do. Unfortunately you won't know until you try it.

It's not the rod that you need to worry about, it's the pad itself. Some peope have slightly sanded the rods to try to reduce the impact and save the pad. Run a quick search and I'm sure you'll find a ton of threads on it.

JTp8ntballer12
03-10-2004, 10:58 PM
for best resuts using a halo get a 9v conversion kit from radio shack or something and they it lessens the power (but not speed) the paddle is turning, making the halo less harmfull to the sensi rod or angels in general.

Vantage_TeS
03-11-2004, 04:43 AM
I cant wait for a better pic. I hope that the fly stays true to the trend and is as P.I.M.P. as the older flys. Besides I get first dibs on TK's Force4 :p

:( So far I see a block, but there is always hope. Unfortunatly I am seeing a storm cloud on the horizon. By releasing a unmilled fly, it leaves the door wide open for custom millings.

I hope WDP doesnt follow the trend of the impulse and start releasing a zillion "custom" guns. You cant take 3 steps in a staging area without tripping on some kind of imp. Angels are the bomb for a reason. They are exclusive. If everyone had an angel, what is the point? (Besides the fact that they are the best guns in the world).

acsik
03-11-2004, 05:39 AM
Heh

That gun has Xball written all over it. Small, über fast, ACE,Stick trigger and easy to clean milling. Maybe this is the Dynasty A4 renamed to FLY?

Annyway they have a winner there...

smasher41
03-11-2004, 10:52 AM
that could explain the plain milling.....

tgaffner
03-11-2004, 04:39 PM
That may be it. It is also stripped of the Gauge...

pimpinsaylor
03-11-2004, 05:17 PM
im goin to buy 1 when my force is gettin retro fittedbut is it goin to get a fly board upgrade also and it sayed that the fly had the fastest cycling time of any gun ever dosethat include the force

pimpinsaylor
03-11-2004, 05:20 PM
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:( So far I see a block, but there is always hope. Unfortunatly I am seeing a storm cloud on the horizon. By releasing a unmilled fly, it leaves the door wide open for custom millings.

I hope WDP doesnt follow the trend of the impulse and start releasing a zillion "custom" guns. You cant take 3 steps in a staging area without tripping on some kind of imp. Angels are the bomb for a reason. They are exclusive. If everyone had an angel, what is the point? (Besides the fact that they are the best guns in the world).

yea i dont think that there sould be so many kinds of the angel just stick with the force, fly and reg

Sparco
03-11-2004, 09:10 PM
im goin to buy 1 when my force is gettin retro fittedbut is it goin to get a fly board upgrade also and it sayed that the fly had the fastest cycling time of any gun ever dosethat include the force

Why do people automatically assume the Force 4 is an A4 on crack? The Force 4 is a title, given to seperate (for branding purposes) the external appearance of the marker from the 'factory' brand.

Everything... I repeat, everything about the electronic and pneumatic operation of the Force 4 and A4 are identical.

crazy8990
03-11-2004, 10:09 PM
i told you guys that you can see the eyes beam...no one ever believes me... haha

dynastySSS
03-11-2004, 10:15 PM
what color is it???

KEN CRANE
03-11-2004, 10:25 PM
are you sure?????

SkeL
03-12-2004, 11:03 PM
I've read both press releases, and still can't seem to see where people are getting this new lpr info from. Is it on their site? I can't visit wdp's home page due to Web filters.

IamNoAngel
03-12-2004, 11:26 PM
Look what I found:

Emmit
03-13-2004, 10:32 AM
yep...been posted twice now..thanks

Emperors Champion
03-13-2004, 11:22 PM
Does anyone know if a Fly board will be available for the new Force?I already ordered a new Force 4 but I have to wait for the new batch in April. :scratchhe

Paladin
03-14-2004, 09:07 PM
Ken is famous http://shop.store.yahoo.com/sakworldpaintballsupply-store/wdpangelfly.html

thog94
03-14-2004, 10:10 PM
Ken is famous http://shop.store.yahoo.com/sakworldpaintballsupply-store/wdpangelfly.html


He sure is, but we know that we'll be ordering our Fly's from the MT's right :wink: