View Full Version : Unusual SENSI issue.....
Wing Nut
03-08-2004, 08:14 AM
Whilst playing yesterday, I was having an unusual SENSI issue.
I played 8 games in total. The first 4 were purely amazing. In fact, I shot all five of the oposition players in one game :o)....
The last 4 were a little odd. I always leave my marker switched on for the entire day, just going from live to safe so I didn't have to keep calibrating the SENSI.
In ALL of the last 4 games I had to turn SENSI off just a few seconds into the game. My loader (HALO) was feeding fine, but my trigger was not responding, as if the SENSI hadn't detected a ball in the breach (about 1 shot every 1 sec).
Really strange.......
Definately not the loader, or the trigger set-up as without SENSI on they were ripping.
Anyone else had this sort of issue???
I'm only trying to resolve this as when SENSI was off, my marker was breaking paint in the barrel. Never broke a single ball all morning until I had to switch the SENSI off in the afternoon. Real pain in the ass when you in the front and have to use a squeegie.
Emmit
03-08-2004, 08:16 AM
did you do a Sensi test?
Have you inspected the sensor to ensure it's still intact?
Wing Nut
03-08-2004, 08:25 AM
did you do a Sensi test?
Have you inspected the sensor to ensure it's still intact?
Did a SENSI drop test and passed everytime.
Also removed the grip and checked the SENSI strip.
Strip was intact. Had some paint residue around the SENSI rod. Cleaned it and thought that was the problem but then it happened in the next game.
Roel Beijnes
03-08-2004, 08:29 AM
Thats weird... :dunno:
If its possible.. try to replace the parts... :(
Sparco
03-08-2004, 09:47 AM
Odd indeed, that happened to me once on my Speed. I removed the SENSI pad completely from the trigger frame (unplugged it from the board), removed the rod, gas diverter plate, etc. I cleaned everything, put a light layer of grease under the SENSI pad, plugged everything back in, cleaned the COPS rod channel and problem solved. Perhaps a full disassembly and regrease is in order?
SquirtGun
03-08-2004, 09:59 AM
There is one thing i found, when i took apart my sensi assembly a few days ago. The sensi rod had a plastic flash on it, left from the production.
As the sensi rod should be able to move as smooth as possible i used a sharp knife to cut off the flash.
This might not be the reason for your problem, but itīs worth checking for everyone. A faster and more reliable working sensi means a better rof! ;-)
I also used a tiny bit of silicon oil to lube the sensi rod. Really just a bit to make the surface smooth...
Greetz, Nick
bower23
03-08-2004, 12:42 PM
you know those cans you can buy to blow off your computer keys? get one of those and blow out your sensi hole..... make sure there is no paint in there...
bower, just curious, your talking about like dust off for the inside of your computer too?
Emmit
03-08-2004, 05:07 PM
yep...those cans work great...I use them all the time...I got hit on the side of my 4 and the only way to get the paint out from in between the wheels without taking them off was a can of air....of course you can always hook up a line to your air bottle and use that too, I've done that with a remote line before and it works just as good.
cveale
03-08-2004, 05:58 PM
Also, when doing your SENSI test, tilt the gun to the side some so the ball hits the rod with much less force. It would shock you how light the ball can touch the SENSI rod and still pass when the SENSI is working properly. Honestly, I think it would pick up a feather landing on it.
The issue you were having is definitely a SENSI not detecting the ball. It sounds like it calibrated correctly or you would not have had the pauses in your shooting. Sometime during the day the SENSI either got stuck or perhaps the sensor is slightly damaged. Good idea checking the rod out though.
Sparco
03-08-2004, 06:07 PM
One thing I've found regarding the SENSI test (and titling) is that you can afford to fail it during the drop test. The other day I failed the drop test 2/5 times with the gun titled at an angle. However under load from the loader it worked just fine in Modes 1, 2 and 4.
MoogLe
03-08-2004, 07:44 PM
i would just like to add in,
if none of this solves it, try covering your TOE hole with something, for example buying the plug from the sponsors
sun could be getting inside your grip and to the opto sensors and triggering some kind of safety feature on the board
i had problems with sun getting in my ir3 grip and i dont even have a TOE hole, i ended up taping up around my board to fix the problem
cveale
03-08-2004, 08:21 PM
One thing I've found regarding the SENSI test (and titling) is that you can afford to fail it during the drop test. The other day I failed the drop test 2/5 times with the gun titled at an angle. However under load from the loader it worked just fine in Modes 1, 2 and 4.
Your SENSI is not as sensitive as it should be then. After going through 5 of them and having a couple spares now I understand fully what the SENSI is supposed to pick up and what it doesn't.
The ball can barely roll into the rod and mine passes the test. I mean barely too. I had my gun almost completely sideways and it passes 20/20. It is very important for the sensitivity to be as high as possible because it enables a better calibration due to the voltages being slightly higher from a ball strike than a SENSI that wasn't as sensitive.
52brandon
03-08-2004, 08:41 PM
I have the same problem, just started yesterday. Same results too. Even with my gun tilted, it still passed the test. My idea is that the sensi rod is too worn down, but I dont have any spares. So hopefully someone else that is having this problem does...
Sparco
03-08-2004, 08:57 PM
It is very important for the sensitivity to be as high as possible because it enables a better calibration due to the voltages being slightly higher from a ball strike than a SENSI that wasn't as sensitive.
I completely agree, it is vital that the pad picks up everything. But knock on wood, went through 1700rds the other day on mode 2 with zero issues. Although I rarely shot the gun on any sort of angle, that shooting "from da hip" is still a work in progress.
Wing Nut
03-09-2004, 08:03 AM
My idea is that the sensi rod is too worn down, but I dont have any spares.
Isnt there a spare that comes with the marker, in that little bag of bits???
cveale, tried the sideways SENSI thingy and it still passes. Got this off you when you first found this out. Thats how I knew my last one in my other 4 was playing up.
PolecatR1
03-09-2004, 10:53 AM
Wingnut,
You'll actually find that my curse has worn off now so you should be back to normal operation! That'll teach you for beating us last time!! :niener:
Seriously, I'd out a new strip in and try a different hopper. There are so many people with halos having problems that there must be something to it.
Might be worth doing a good cleaning job first though to see if this is an issue. If it is then we should all be aware of it.
Cheers
laysomepaint
03-09-2004, 12:33 PM
It may not be your sensi at all. Make sure your trigger is adjusted properly, and put a drop of weak locktite on the set screws to keep them from slipping.
Try putting a bit of electrical tape over the toe screw hole to see if that fixes the problem.
If it is passing the test, its definately not the sensi rod being too worn down.
52brandon
03-15-2004, 01:04 PM
I found one solution that worked on my gun. I switched to a halo, now I have no problems with the sensi.
y0umissed
03-15-2004, 07:28 PM
If the hopper was the problem then you couldve tried sanding down the neck of the egg first, the sensi was probably not working because the egg isnt crazy strong like the halo.
52brandon
03-15-2004, 07:36 PM
i dont think it was the sensi at all, I think my egg just sucked. I think I got a "bad egg" sometimes it didn't even work.
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