Silencer

[Sparco]

Idea...

I'd like to see the MT crew produce a silencer for the marker. I remember there use to be a silencer available for the Angel on some various sites but apparently they have since discontinued the design.

Something simple, under $50 that allows you to muffle the majority of the marker's noise... specifically for indoor tech use.

Anyone else agree with me?

(talking about the barrel mufflers that all the techs have)

[Emmit]

Cobra made one that was supposed to be useable for teching etc:dunno:

[Hep]

Yeah Cobra still sells them I just ordered one. $45

[dynastySSS]

i dont want one by the time they here my gun i have shot than and are now running down the tape doing their other team members.

[thog94]

i dont want one by the time they here my gun i have shot than and are now running down the tape doing their other team members.

You entirely missed the point of this thread. This isn't used for playing on the field, it's used for tech use. It's something to muffle the sound when you are adjusting your trigger, checking your LPR etc...

[IwanaANGEL]

I saw what u are looking for on ebay...

i cant seem to find it but i remember it selling for 45.00 buy it now

[Sparco]

Oh, they still do? I couldn't find it on their site under barrels, accessories or universal.

Thanks...

[Sparco]

that allows you to muffle the majority of the marker's noise... specifically for indoor tech use. (talking about the barrel mufflers that all the techs have)

:shocked:

hear

[Emmit]

make your own....an old barrel, some sound absorbing foam from a music store, and some duct tape:yikes:

[Sparco]

make your own....an old barrel, some sound absorbing foam from a music store, and some duct tape:yikes:

Already did using a JT back, PVC piping and sound suppression foam from a music store. But it's nowhere near as clean as that Cobra one.

I believe 3M makes a device that would work similar, though. Fear not Emmit, I'm not that challenged.

[dynastySSS]

my bad thog i know what your talking about know there is this thing called a nija barrel that quiets the sound...

[Jouster]

No company will sell you a silencer, since the ATF determined that PB silencers are too easy to convert into "real" silencers.

If you do happen to find someone selling a silencer or suppression device, you might want to consider notifying the cops.

Jouster

[Furby]

Centerflag Products sells the "Ninja" barrel system....we have one at the shop, and it's great...you can rail away all day long and not a peep from the gun. It's an airsmith's dream.

[Emmit]

No company will sell you a silencer, since the ATF determined that PB silencers are too easy to convert into "real" silencers.

If you do happen to find someone selling a silencer or suppression device, you might want to consider notifying the cops.

Jouster
we're not talking about a silncer here people...we're talking about a muffler that is used by techs for working indoors.

[Furby]

Did I mention that I'm a certified Centerflag Tech, and that I can get Ninja Barrel Mufflers for whoever needs one?

[Vantage_TeS]

post a price!

[Furby]

Aw jeez...let me call Centerflag Monday and find out for sure...my p/l is messed up. I'll post up the price ASAP

[Sparco]

No company will sell you a silencer, since the ATF determined that PB silencers are too easy to convert into "real" silencers.

If you do happen to find someone selling a silencer or suppression device, you might want to consider notifying the cops.

Jouster... did you even attempt to read my post and the several comments above your post? Or did you just read the title and post?

For those of you that have a difficult time doing so, allow me to assist:

I am not looking for a silencer that is to be used on the paintball field. I am looking for a sound supression device that can be used while dry firing the marker in an indoor setting. The purpose of this sound supression device is to assist me in testing my LPR, trigger, and marker operation while firing the marker indoors where sound ordinances are enforced. At no point will this "device" ever be used on, at or even near a field. Nor will it be used when the marker is pointed at, directed to or aimed at another person, animal or forum member.

[Foosheezee]

centerflag makes one called the ninja

[Sparco]

centerflag makes one called the ninja

Can I order it by calling them? It's not on their website. I tried calling them but I got a voice mail recording, left a message and never got a response.

They make good air systems but they need to fire their webmaster.

[Furby]

Call up Centerflag Monday and ask for Chris "Sammo" Park, or Kris Ashley...tell 'em Furby (or Dale) sent you and they'll take care of you. In the meantime I'll call 'em up Monday as well to get a price on 'em and let you all know here.

[mpire123]

Here's some info I Googled.

http://paintball.com/features/story.cfm?placementID=2655&clickon=NewsS

[Sparco]

Interesting article, no mention of a price. I wonder why CF is so "hush hush" on posting a price on the internet let alone distributing it on places like gear.

[Vantage_TeS]

Hey I did about 5 min worth of research and found $39.95MRSP
http://paintball.com/pics/articlepictures/Products/centerflag/ninja/ninjaad.jpg

I think they are using a different looking tip now, the new tip is blue I believe and without those vents on the sides.

[Sparco]

Vantage, where did you find that poster? Thanks... I gave up looking after a few google search attempts.

$39.95 isn't bad, although I believe I can rig something up for sub $10 @ Home Depot.

[Hep]

Oh, they still do? I couldn't find it on their site under barrels, accessories or universal.

Thanks...
Well its not on their site but I had this crazy idea and called them. :again: The saleman stated they have them for the Angel still... now if that means they dont make any other threaded muffler for a different makers? :dunno:

[akruse21]

Did I mention that I'm a certified Centerflag Tech, and that I can get Ninja Barrel Mufflers for whoever needs one?


if its under 50 bucks i'll take one, let me know how you want the money

[Vantage_TeS]

Odd, since the barrel is three pieces. Front is blocker (muffler, capped on the end), then barrel part, then the end piece is like a cross between a freak back and a barrel adapter (standard front threads, with a bunch of different back threads to fit on different guns).
Vantage, where did you find that poster? Thanks... I gave up looking after a few google search attempts.
If I told you I would have to kill you :p

[Sparco]

Well its not on their site but I had this crazy idea and called them. :again: The saleman stated they have them for the Angel still... now if that means they dont make any other threaded muffler for a different makers? :dunno:

"You can't sell an empty shelf."

:bouncer:

[Hep]

I was just stating that some people get so lazy using the internet that they forget what a phone is for. Like some kind of fear of talking to a human. Anyways I was only pointing out the obvious solution.. "if you don't see something on someones site then call them" providing they list a number.

Hep

[Sparco]

Hep... I've been a customer of Cobra's for almost 4-years now, and when I called them the person I spoke with on the phone stated: "We don't sell them anymore, that's why they're not on the website."

It wasn't Walter & Chris...

Another thing, in my initial post I stated I was looking for something under $50 which eliminates Cobra's system.

These people that fear the phone... do they forget to read posts too? ;)

[Hep]

Last time I check $45 was under $50 and I didn't get the persons name at Cobra friday when I called but how about I post pics when it arrives.

[Sparco]

Last time I check $45 was under $50 and I didn't get the persons name at Cobra friday when I called but how about I post pics when it arrives.

No worries, I found the muffler they used... threaded it to a JT back that I found at a field.

Total cost to replicate muffler for $45 = $6.72

[Hep]

Good deal then Jason
Lata,
Hep

[Furby]

Okay...got an email from Sammo with a price on the Ninja...the stock part is cocker threaded, and you buy an adapter for whatever gun you're wanting to use it on...Best I can do is $50 shipped for the Ninja and an Angel adapter. You can always call up Centerflag and buy direct, too. Just ask for Sammo or Kris.

[Sparco]

Furby... so it's more than the Cobra one?

Good luck to anyone who gets it, I'll be curious to hear your impressions.

[Furby]

I guess so...that's the best I can do on it...you'll likely do better calling Centerflag direct and ordering one...that and rather than talking to me, you'd get to talk to Kris or Sammo, two of the coolest people in the industry.

The one we have at my shop is the complete kit, which is the Ninja itself (that's cocker threaded) and all the adapters. The space my shop occupies is two stories, so if you fire a gun without a muffler on it in there, it's loud AND it echoes. With the Ninja on there, it's less than a third of the noise that it'd make otherwise.

[aerotcus]

I use a pillow to cover the barrel port and feed neck... it works fine for tuning the gun.

[Sammo]

The Ninja muffler systen is an easy and convienent way to "muffle" the sound of dry-firing a marker. By default, it comes with cocker threads, but you can purchase an adapter to fit your particular marker. We currenty have adapters for Angel, Automag, Impulse, Tippmann Model 98, Tippmann A-5, Bushmaster, and Spyder threads. It attaches to your marker just like a barrel and muffles the dry-firing retort by up to 80%. This way, you don't have to hold a pillow over your barrel and your left hand is free to make adjustments to your marker while firing... (bad habit of mine...) MSRP on the Ninja Barrel itself is $49.00. MSRP on the adapter for the Angel (or any other adapter) is $25.00. We also have a "Mini Kit" which comes with the Ninja and three adapters of your choice which retails for $89.00 and the "Full Kit" which comes with the Ninja and all seven adapters which retails for $119.00.

Yes, I know you can accomplish similar results firing into a pillow or towel. I've heard that countless times now. However, you can't practice virtual snap shooting holding a pillow over your barrel! :tongue: That and now you won't be shooting paintball oil into your pillow either!

Looking at the MSRP prices (which is what we would sell to retail customers direct from CenterFlag in order to NOT compete with our dealers), it's obviously to your advantage to order these direct from Furby or your local CenterFlag dealer. That and personally, I don't know of anyone selling the Ninja systems cheaper than what Furby quoted you here in the forum.

I apologize for our website, I am the webmaster and have obviously been shirking my duties as such. I will have a new site up very soon (hopefully before the end of January) and it will be much better... If you do not like the new site, please direct all complaints to Furby... :fade:

I hope this answers the questions you folks have about our Ninja Muffler System and if it doesn't, feel free to post them or email me at centerflag1@aol.com! :) Either that, or as some of you have discovered, I'm only a phone call away!

Best Regards,
Sammo

[Sparco]

Sammo... thanks for that added information. I will probably contact Furby!

[Jouster]

I am not looking for a silencer that is to be used on the paintball field. I am looking for a sound supression device that can be used while dry firing the marker in an indoor setting. The purpose of this sound supression device is to assist me in testing my LPR, trigger, and marker operation while firing the marker indoors where sound ordinances are enforced. At no point will this "device" ever be used on, at or even near a field. Nor will it be used when the marker is pointed at, directed to or aimed at another person, animal or forum member.

Woah, there, bronco. I was responding to this (http://www.angel-owners.com/showpost.php?p=167268&postcount=4).

And, yes, I knew what you were looking for. I was trying to prevent the thread from wandering off course by stating early and stating powerfully that sound-suppressing, useable barrels were off the menu.

Sorry if I somehow offended you. I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence; just trying to preserve the integrity of your thread.

Jouster

[crashdan]

does anyone remember the ramrod barrel? with the like foot long barrel plug, it makes virtually no noise when dryfiring, my sponser only has 1 left so if u want it let me know

[Sparco]

Sorry if I somehow offended you. I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence; just trying to preserve the integrity of your thread.

Well the thread really didn't know your assistance, to be honest. Most of the time a thread goes off topic because the initial argument is presented poorly in combination with a maturity base of zero. Fortunately, AOG has done an excellent job of eliminating the later and I tried to word my argument properly to avoid the former.

Not to mention, no one (out of the 40 responses) made any reference to on-field use. In fact several people responded in support of the off-field, indoor purpose. Even a representative from CF got in on the action!

Most of us... are aware of supression and it's illegal status within ATF standards. That's the beauty of paintball, it is a different entity!

[pimpinsaylor]

The only time you would need a silencer is if ur shootin cops and/or prankin people with them which you shouldent cauze ur givin paintball a bad image

[Hep]

Force A4....... $1250

Cobra Muffler..... $45

Dry firing all you want..... Free

no longer having pissed off neighbors.... priceless

ah :thefinger them anyways

Hep

[pimpinsaylor]

that is sweet

[Sparco]

The only time you would need a silencer is if ur shootin cops and/or prankin people with them which you shouldent cauze ur givin paintball a bad image

You and Jouster need to exchange phone numbers...

Hep, does it fit with the longest volumizer? My buddy who lives in the Oceanside area might be picking one up, despite the fact that I made him a "rigged" one. It looks like the muffler part might not clear the longer volumizer (looks like you have the medium one).

[thog94]

Hep can be reached toll free at 1-800-IMA-PIMP

[DarkDragon]

sparco where do u live?

[Sparco]

sparco where do u live?

I fail to see how that matters? I'm actually half way completed my move from Washington, DC to San Diego, CA. I should be in SD by President's Day.

[Hep]

With the longest volumizer on your gun.... no it wouldn't fit but once you get one after closer inspection you can make it longer with some ummm pvc tube/another fitting. Basically "cat out of the hat" it is a water fitler of sorts and thats all Im saying as from what I see.
Hep

[DarkDragon]

i just asked cause u said you had a friend in the oceanside are and i live in new york on long island in a town very close to a town named oceanside so i was wondering if it was the same town or if maybe you lived near me by any chance... guess not.

[russ]

We have been working on a design for quite some time now.
So far getting a clean looking muffler that will emilate a real ball being fired is becoming the difficult part.
The muffle part is easy, the trick is to have it feel like you are shooting balls throught he muffler.

[Sparco]

Russ, I had perhaps considered a Cobra muffler as my throw together job is marginal at best. But it appears as though the Cobra muffler doesn't thread in completely with the longest volumizer.

Confirmation?

[russ]

That is true, you can always pick up an extension piece from the hardware store.

[Sparco]

Perhaps, but at $45 I'd like to think it wouldn't require modifications. The CF Ninja looks like the best alternative.