Force 4 question...?

[dew_dew_boy]

Does the Force 4 Come with any different modifications compared to a normal A4? And are there any RED Force 4s in stock anywhere???

And another thing, Can you move the trigger back so its almost touching the frame? I don’t like how they are so far forward from the back of the trigger frame.

Here are two examples... Notice how in the first link the trigger looks like it is set back farther than the second link...

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7511

http://www.angel-owners.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7890

Last one. What is the best setting when using a MaxFlow on this sucker? As in... Open Reg all the way and adjust Max flow? Or turn up Maxflo and adjust reg...

Thanks

[thog94]

As for the triggers the 1st pic is my gun with a slayer on it, the 2nd pic has a stock trigger on it. If you search for the Slayer trigger review, Emmit took a pic of the triggers side by side and you can see the difference in them. A Slayer trigger is about $25.

The only difference between the Force 4 and the A4 is the milling, backplate, custom set up by the Master Techs, and warrenty. Other than that all of the internals are the same.

As far as the colors, there are only 3, the grey, blue, and burnt orange or red as some are calling it.

If you read the thread about settings in the A4 section you want to run about 350 into the gun and adjust your reg from there.

[Sparco]

Also if you notice my trigger (orange force) my trigger slack is reasonably long, especially the rear travel. I found after extensive fooling around with the vernier wheels a low TR and a long travel allowed me to really get on the trigger while keeping the bounce low at the chrono/ref station.

:)

Tore 19 with paint the other day and barely exerted myself. I've never gotten anything above 13bps with paint on any other marker.

[pballn4x4freak]

what exactly are the settings that the techs put on the force 4, and can someone put those same settings on an A4.

[Emmit]

any physical settings that are done to the Force can be done to a 4, ie LPR, dwell etc.

[DarkDragon]

so that extra approx. $100 is just for the backplate milling and unique color?

[IwanaANGEL]

also lifetime warrente(sp?) Master techs will tune it to ur settings...http://www.angelforce.tv/warranty.html

[DarkDragon]

yea but if i buy an a4 from the sponsers i heard it comes with same warrenty. is that true?

[DyeGuy331]

I'm not sure if it's the same warranty or not. The Master Techs give a 100% parts and labor, plus you can send it in every year to get it tuned up and checked over. And I think the extra $100 is worth the milling and color...I've seen a few 4s at my field but I've got the only Force around! :niener:

[Sparco]

yea but if i buy an a4 from the sponsers i heard it comes with same warrenty. is that true?

If you buy an A4 from a service center you get the warranty at that service center, not the other six locations. That's the advantage to the MT version.

[Hep]

I'm not sure if it's the same warranty or not. The Master Techs give a 100% parts and labor, plus you can send it in every year to get it tuned up and checked over. And I think the extra $100 is worth the milling and color...I've seen a few 4s at my field but I've got the only Force around! :niener:



Read this:

The Angel Force 4 comes with the most comprehensive parts and labor warranty available. When you buy an Angel Force Angel you get:

1. A Lifetime Labor Warranty.

2. A Lifetime Parts Warranty that covers the replacement of the following parts at no charge to you:

Detent inserts
Exhaust valves
O-rings/Gaskets
LPR Seat
Feed gates
Software Upgrades

3. A Lifetime Service Warranty. Free tune-ups and one (1) Free complete overhaul per year.

4. Service locations. The warranty is good at 7 locations across the USA and Canada as well as at all major events.

So yeah its a kick @ss warranty just dont think they cover 100% of all the gun. Wearable parts basically arent covered which ANY place wont cover anyways but other than that they got the best warranty in the biz!! HANDS DOWN! :bigok:
Just trying to clarify the warranty for some.
Hep

[DarkDragon]

i got nothing against the force. im working during the summer to save up for one (with some add ons like AIR evo2 zboard... ive said it hundreds of times u should know what im saving for) and to make a hefty profit of my own heheh. i just wanted to see the differences in the warrenty etc. i didnt say i wouldnt get a force for those who thought i might be hinting at that.