pro teams with the A4?

[phobia#1]

hey does anyone know if any of the teams are shooting the A4 yet, like Russian Legion and the other wdp teams? :doc:

[Emmit]

Some of Dynasty was shooting it at the end of the year...:dunno:

[MoogLe]

maybe joy division have some

avalanche also had a few

[boathouse]

the stoned assassins will probably have some

[Ricky]

ha, any with speeds?

[Emmit]

Avalanche had the Speeds when they came out, as did Dynasty and I believe Joy Division used them for a bit as well. I know that the Stoned Assassins had Speeds when they debuted in Vegas.

[desiree]

i saw some of russian legion using speeds to.

[JTp8ntballer12]

avalanche will probably be shooting demons, and when warped branches like shocktech they will probably shoot timmys cus at SC thats what i see em with (never saw them with an angel before besides nppl)

[Speedy_in_Blue]

yep, avalanche now shoots timmys, as do the naughty dogs, totally gay

[C.Carles-AOG]

I don't see anything on Avalanche's site.

[JTp8ntballer12]

its under construction

[Speedy_in_Blue]

My mistake, I believe they will be able to shoot any of the Dark Series Markers, that includes A4's, Timmys, Speeds. At least that what an article about them in PGi said(think it was PGi)

[MoogLe]

well arsenal will be sportin some a4's :)

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Arsenal is so gonna kick ass, Dynasty aint got nothing on them. Hell, Dynasty wont make it to the field cause their Shockers will be blendin fools. Go Arsenal

[MoogLe]

Arsenal is so gonna kick ass, Dynasty aint got nothing on them. Hell, Dynasty wont make it to the field cause their Shockers will be blendin fools. Go Arsenal
that's a little over optimistic i'd say :tongue:

[dako6680]

I think credit is due where credit is due. Dont get me wrong, WDP in my opinion is the best company bar none and the one who started the electro revolution when they made one that works. But come on, I think it is a little optimistic to claim that Dynasty is going to get spanked because they use Smart Parts. Player first, then gun second. I guarantee Olly can smoke a nub with an A4 with a spyder.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

Well no ☼☼☼☼ Olly could smoke a nub, thats the dumbest thing to say ever. What I am talking about is that the new Shockers are the most worthless things on the planet, trust me, I know, I have owned one. All I am saying is that Arsenal is gonna give Dynasty a run for their money.

[cronicman_65]

speedy ur right, i have watched them practice and the combination of bad company, and nasty, and someother players who are awsome, make a winning combanation i think dynasty will have some trouble especially now they have switched companys.

[dako6680]

If you are saying just because a team uses WDP products, they are going to have some kind of magic power, you are smoking crack. You think dynasty would switch over to smart parts knowing that they wouldn't win as much. Give me a break. Dong get me wrong, I love WDP products and everything they make. But Im just keeping it real. A good player is always going to be good and a different gun is not going to make that or break that. Im sure shockers arent as good as A4s, im willing to bet 1300 dollars on that. But as long as they shoot and dont chop every other ball, truth of the matter is, dynasty is still going to be winning. Ive watched most of them play since they were Ironkids. Todd Martinez went to my highschool. These kids are going to be good with any gun you give them. I am pissed that they left WDP, but give them some credit. WDP products were a part of their success but majority of it were because they were just awesome players. What, you think angels shoot some kind of magic balls or something?

[dako6680]

Another thing. Its not like WDP sponsors teams and gives them free angels and all of a sudden they become world best teams. Dynasty won the WDP sponsorship because simply put, they won tournys. If they sucked WDP wouldnt have gave a rats ass. Now that SP is willing to fork over the doh, dynasty is with them. I am sure that any other team that WDP is willing to sponsor are worthy of that name, meaning that they were good to begin with. Its the same with anything man. Nikes are good shoes but to say that micheal jordan wouldnt have played as good without the shoes is proposterous. You put too much emphasis on what gear players have and not skills. you cant put a numerical value on it but I would say that it is 5-10% gear and 90-95 percent talent. If you think otherwise, then you must either play with the most worthless peace of crap or you suck so much that you need all the r.o.fs in the world to get that one kill.

[Speedy_in_Blue]

have you ever owned one of those piece of ☼☼☼☼ new style Shockers? I have, they suck, I had 1 with Vision and 1 without, they both sucked ass! Slow as all get out, chopped worse than your mom spits it back out. I mean, damn, the only reason Dynasty went to smart parts was for the money, thats it.

Arsenal has a very good lineup, that is why I say they are going to give Dynasty trouble, and the fact that they will be fixing their guns more than using them.

[Woogie12]

I don't want to get into this argument, but I'm really interested to see how Arsenal will do this season. I have a feeling that they will give all of the other top pro teams a run for their money.

[dako6680]

All I am saying is that if arsenal is going to do well in the circuit, you have to give them credit for being good players first and then praise the gun second. Why do you guys make it seem like the pros are only in their position because of their guns. There are plenty rooks that will never see the light of day of playing NPPL Am or pro and they have the best gear in the world. The field I play on, pretty much everyone has Angels. You dont see them at the Super 7 do you? I am sure that the shockers suck but you know what, im sure dynasty will figure something out. I am pissed that they sold out as much as the next WDP fan, but I will be surprised if dynasty will drop from 1st ranked team in every damn tourney circuit out there to last because they switched guns. Im sure they will have a little more trouble fixing their guns and all that jazz but its not like they were relying on their guns to win tourneys 100 percent anyways. Players win tourneys not guns.

[onSpEeD]

arsenal practiced at my local field the other day, marcus and kenny klamper were there 2, great ballers.....like WHOA! They are gonna pwn, but im not sure if thell pwn dynasty, olny time will tell.......

[dako6680]

Finally, an unbiased opinion. Im glad that there is a player that thinkings its more skill than gear. Im sure Arsenal is going to do well but my thoughts are same with yours. Only time will tell and I do hope that they do as well as dynasty did under WDP. As for them beating dynasty because they use angels than SP crap, that is too much. I do hope that they do outskill dynasty because I want WDP team to do well since I am a fourth timer Angel owner. I am just getting sick of people saying that Dynasty is going to suck because they switched over. Give them some credit people. I played in the same league as the ironkids in the GWS (although I was div AA) and watched them before all their lucrative sponsorships from WDP and Viewloader and they still came out on top so that is why I say what I say. Player makes the gun, not the other way around.

[KFCarp]

alls i have to say is yeah shockers are POS...tha ones that tha average joe-shmo buys....the shockers that dynasty will be using will have the best of the best in them so i dont think dynastys reign will stop...that is unless aresnal knocks em....what im trying to say here is dynastys not gunna loos cuz they are going (IMO) to be using the biggest POS i have ever seen, but because another team(arsenal) will come along and take em down straight up!

[Synthetiq]

Dynasty is still one of my favorite teams with my favorite players regardless of using SP guns ( even though I do dislike them ). I will still support Dynasty but I know I read that they were having a lot of problems with their guns at practices. Anyway, does anyone know the full Arsenal Lineup because I have a feeling Arsenal will come out with a big bang this season :hititraw: :cheers:

[dako6680]

I am sure arsenal is going to do well. WDP would not support bunch of looser nubs to sponsor their top gun in the industry. WDP has been reigning as the number one of everything in the last five years and they would not mar their good name by sponsoring a crappy team. The line up does sound tight. For what its worth, I hope they do reign like the dynasty kids did. I dont like smart parts products and I never will because I think they are overpriced POS. I have heard that shockers are not nearly as good as angels and I know that they are slow to shoot. I just dont want to be one of those people on this board that knocks on them for switching over to SP. I am glad that there is finally a true professional team (one that can support themselves purely of the sport) as much as I hate them for dissing WDP. I still support dynasty for their raw talent but got to disagree on using those ugly ass crappy shockers.

[proraptor]

I have always hated dynasty...I could care less what gun they use....They are all gay

I hope arsenal rocks them

[dako6680]

What is there to hate about dynasty. That team is all talent man. Im glad there is finally a pro team that so legit instead of these fags paying their way into the pro division at the NPPL. I think dynasty has proven their worth in the sport of paintball.

[Woogie12]

Legit? They cheat left and right. The again, most pro teams do cheat but I've seen dynasty cheat more than enough times.

[AnotherAngelFan]

ya im with dark in a way they did make it up the ranks not cuz of their gun, thought htey all cheat ive seen every team cheat, though i hate how they left wdp i gotta say hey i owuldve left too if i was offered 140 grand

[KEN CRANE]

right now the pros that are using the a4 in the us are,rocky cagnoni.all of joy division and arsenal.watch for more to follow soon

[Emmit]

right now the pros that are using the a4 in the us are,rocky cagnoni.all of joy division and arsenal.watch for more to follow soon
and Emmit....oh wait, I'm not Pro yet, just hugely popular:smile: