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typhoonlaggon
12-08-2003, 06:53 PM
I just piced up a black 2k3 le lcd angel and love it and was wondering how higly you guys would recomend getting the angel tool kit...i have the money and im just wondering if its a big asset to have and really helps things out...thanks

-typhoonlaggon

Emmit
12-08-2003, 06:54 PM
it is $60 you should spend now!

zerokool
12-11-2003, 11:20 AM
up up, Emmit is normally right and is definitly right on this one.. UP UP

|ZooT
12-11-2003, 02:42 PM
Well, there are two sides to thisone..
I on the other hand is making my own toolkit.
But if you aint that handy then i second and third Emmit and zerokool here.

RaistlinsLegacy
12-14-2003, 01:13 AM
i would suggest you get one..

C.Carles-AOG
12-14-2003, 11:47 AM
It'll be your guns second best friend. The Tech's are the guns first. :wink:

Speedyejl
12-16-2003, 11:17 PM
Would it be possible to even remove the LPR without one?

thog94
12-16-2003, 11:44 PM
Stop being cheap and trying to get by the easy way. Buy a tool kit!

Speedyejl
12-17-2003, 12:00 AM
Uh... I meant could it feasibly be done without one, letting there be a need for one...

thog94
12-17-2003, 12:20 AM
Uh... I meant could it feasibly be done without one, letting there be a need for one...

How are you going to tell your LPR pressure with out one??

dynastySSS
12-17-2003, 08:44 PM
it is possible with the certian tools i know its posted somewhere.

thog94
12-17-2003, 10:54 PM
Why the hell try to manufacture something? The time and money invested in trying to take a short cut isn't worth it. WDP makes a tool kit for a reason, so you don't have to go out and rig something.

Speedyejl
12-17-2003, 11:20 PM
To be fair the tool kit is useful but for the price to use ratio its most certaintly over priced. Your only going to be use it to tune your gun which happens unfrequently. Free options are out there that don't require any fabrication.

LPR Tool: screw a M2.5 screw into the piston and use a plier to pull it out (you can get the M2.5 screw off your sight rail.

Ram Stroke/Snap tool: Take two small free floating allen keys, place them in the holes on the ram shaft and then hold them with a pair of pliers (you don't even need pliers, can use fingers) and rotate around. If you need to adjust the snap ring then just hold the allen keys forementioned and adjust with another key, easy.

LPR Gauge: the only tool which isn't easily dug up for free. But hey if someone can figure out a way to get a M5 thread to 1/8 then just use a normal gauge. Beswick sells a male M5 to barb and then get a female 1/8NPT to barb, get some cocker hose and a gauge and your done. All for $10 assuming you have a gauge lying around and some cocker hose.

thog94
12-17-2003, 11:23 PM
You guys can do what you want, but I always use the proper tool for the job.

batmantis
12-30-2003, 12:30 PM
just get the tool kit dont risk damaging your marker.you wouldnt do brain surgery with a butcher knife would you??...

aerotcus
01-05-2004, 02:14 PM
just get the tool kit dont risk damaging your marker.you wouldnt do brain surgery with a butcher knife would you??...

Well put. I wouldnt touch my 1000 dollar marker with anything but the right tool.

Speedyejl
01-05-2004, 06:40 PM
Look I'm not saying use the tools I formentioned as apose to the angel tool kit,
but I hate to tell you guys this, the Angel tool kit was an after thought. The tools I mentioned above with the exception of circlip pliers as the ram tool were the tools that WDP designed to be used with Angels. Go check a V6 or LED manual, yep it says to use circlip pliers, and the sight rail screw. Their just as effective as using the tool kit tools and are a lot cheaper.

Hep
01-05-2004, 11:17 PM
Your point is well taken Speedyejl but some people on these boards are new to Angels or weren't even around playing when the LED came out so I can understand their point. But you are not wrong on what you mentioned its just easier for some to go ahead and purchase a tool kit. Less dangerous for others basically. I remember the good ole days of doing what your saying but didn't take long for me to realize I needed a tool kit. Hell my tool kit is soo old it didnt even have a ram removal tool or a guage for the lpr. It was the first version of the tool kit, now that old. lol

Hep

JaRZ25
01-29-2004, 02:00 PM
where can i get an angel tool kit??

thog94
01-29-2004, 02:22 PM
From any of our sponsors www.WDPService.com you can also click on their banners at the top of the page. You might want to try Fix My Angel or Angel Parts, as they are the closest to you.

Emmit
01-29-2004, 04:07 PM
I posted a link to the kit on the fixmyangel site yesterday in the LED section as someone was asking about it.

akes
02-08-2004, 07:58 PM
Does the LCD tool kit also work on the A4 ??? ---------- Big Al

Emmit
02-08-2004, 07:58 PM
yes...the tool kit is the same

akes
02-08-2004, 10:02 PM
Thanks Emmit

One Question , is the Force4 worth the Extra??? , I am goint to buy a A4 or Force4

I dont Travel so the Dealer links are not really that Important

--------- Big Al

Emmit
02-09-2004, 07:14 AM
Thanks Emmit

One Question , is the Force4 worth the Extra??? , I am goint to buy a A4 or Force4

I dont Travel so the Dealer links are not really that Important

--------- Big Al
it depends...do you want the unique milling, unique colors, and lifetime parts and labor warranty for only $100 more??? And that warranty isn't just through 1 store, that's through the all the Master Techs, being in Canada I'm assuming you'd go through Badlands, but even Performance or Angelparts or even Mo's would honor that warranty. To me it would be worth it.

AngelSpeedPa
03-29-2004, 02:26 PM
Definately get one of these suckers...well worth the price. Go to pbgear.com, they have them for $42...best deal out there, minus ebay sometimes.

mr_cool2588
03-29-2004, 04:28 PM
Couldn't you just sweetspot your LPR like what you do on cockers, and just make sure it is working and not worry about what number value in PSI the operating pressure is? I could be wrong, I am new to angels, but it seems to make sense.

Anyhow, I really think that this is a situation similar to sending your gun to a tech over somthing minor like a failing cupseal. If you trust yourself to fix it, then do it and save yourself the shipping and repair fees. If you can't figure it out or don't feel comfortable, then spend the money, and send it in. If you feel comfortable using tools that work but were not designed specifically for the marker, by all means go for it.

It may seem contradictory, but even though I shoot an angel, my paintballing funds are not unlimited. I have a limited budget for what I can spend on paintball, and if I can save 42 dollars by using tools that I already have then it seems like a good deal. I'll save the money and buy some paint.

NATEDOGG
03-29-2004, 04:45 PM
Pbgear.com Has A Great Price. Too Bad Its Never In Stock