Anyone else tried this?

[Icehawk]

I got back from the field this weekend and my angel chopped about every 3 out of 4 balls. I went through the routine of adjusting the ram, cleaning the sensi rod, dinking with dwell, etc... It had plenty of a charge in it (it had been double charged).

***The solution to egg/halo cops is get a revvy***

So, onto my stroke of ghetto-genius. I heard about the A4 bolt solving problems and because I just spent $125 on a day at the field as well as an A+ lowrise, I didn't have the cash for one. Like a typical jackass baller with his back to a wall, I decided to make one. I took some of that plastic packaging (the hard stuff that JT goggels come in that you can never open unless you have some directed explosive charges) and cut out a circular piece the same size as my bolt face. Next I carved down the sides to mirror the metal "Y" shaped piece inside the bolt. After that I trimmed down the ends of the "Y" untill the center of the arched plastic piece was flush with the front of the bolt. To secure it in place I dabbed superglue gel on the ends. Now when I look into the breach through the front of teh gun with out a barrel, the ball stack is in the same position as it is with my revvy. I haven't had the chance to test it out yet because I live in a goddamn dorm, but it seems pretty seure and to do the job it was supposed to. The reason why I decided to do this is because I figured that if it worked, great... I just saved $25! If it doesn't and I screw up the bolt, then it will force me to get and A4 bolt anyways. Here's a pic to show ya how it turned out... sorry if it's kinda fuzzy.

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/icehawkscockers/images/IM001785.JPG

[SkeL]

I would be concerned with the durability of it. You have a great idea and everything, but if it breaks off after the first 4 shots or causes paint to explode, than it's just a big headache.
I'm not sure what plastic you're using, but you don't want it to be too hard. It sounds like the plastic you are using isn't very soft, and that isn't what WDP tryed to do with their bolt. They tried to make a bolt that had a soft face and would cup the ball during it's cycle, so that the pressure is evenly distributed around the paintball. The a4 bolt is also a little bit more secure as it's attached to the fins inside the bolt.
I don't mean to degrade your work, just offer some constructive criticism, as it may help you in the long run. I suggest you try it out over the chrono, and not during a tournament :) YOu don't want to deal with that during a game that matters. Good luck, it may as well work.

[aerotcus]

Let us know how it works next time you use it.... I just got my A4 bolt in the mail, but still this is interesting. I might have wasted money

[Icehawk]

Thanks man, I understand where you're coming from. Those are my concerns too. I'll probably try it out this weekend over my lunchbreak at the field and I'll tell you guys how it turns out. as far as the plastic type...hmmm... it's the same stuff that shocktech and several other companies use to make the boxes that hold marker internals. I think this box used to carry a SS Hammer kit for my old Autococker... anyways if this is still to vague, just hed over to your local pro shop/store and just look at all teh little boxes the shocktech internals come in. I was kinda limited by materials so I'll keep looking around for something a little softer. I was also thinking about attaching the fins further back between the bolt and that inner shaft, but I was too scared to even attempt to take it apart. Well, Wish me luck and I'll tell everyone how it turned out by sunday night (hopefully).

[DogSniffMe]

dude if ur chopping that bad, check ur ram adjustment. its usually the problem.

[Icehawk]

I did the ram adjustment like the manual and everyone on this fourm said... still no dice. Thats why I resorted to my ghetto-modding skillz.

[DogSniffMe]

did u check ur detents?
do u clibrate sensi?
what sensi mode are u running in?
did u clean ur sensi rod?

[acoenfam1]

Originally posted by DogSniffMe
did u check ur detents?
do u clibrate sensi?
what sensi mode are u running in?
did u clean ur sensi rod?

:dito:
Man I don't know what is causing the problems you and others seem to be having. But answers these and we'll work from there.

[MoogLe]

i dont think it;s gonna hold up,

the pic is very fuzzy but it looks like it's kind of a triangle, if that's so it's in the way of the air and will get blown off probably with the very first shot,

and that plastic is indeed very hard, i really doubt this will work, but goodluck anyways

[warpedx]

http://www.angel-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15341

Take a look at this thread too.

[Icehawk]

As I said in my first post...

Originally posted by Icehawk
I went through the routine of adjusting the ram, cleaning the sensi rod, dinking with dwell, etc... It had plenty of a charge in it (it had been double charged).

The Sensi was calibrated and I was in sensi mode 3. Nothing was wrong with the detents either. As far as the A+ theory, I see how that could work, but then why do some people have no problem whatsoever and other's get screwed? It all seems like it would be at the same height. Anyways, I opened up my halo and tweaked the eye sensitivity adjustment on the board... maybe that will help. As for she shape of the plastic piece (I know the picture is really fuzzy and is nearly impossible to tell), I kept shaving it down until it mirrored the shape of the metal center piece of the bolt. Well, I'm going to be reffing at a local field this sunday and I'll test it over my lunch break to tell you guys how it holds up. I think I'll try to put at least a few pods through it to test duribility and how effective it is. Wish me luck!

[MoogLe]

GOOD LUCK

[Icehawk]

Allright... I'm back from the field and as MoogLe & SkeL predicted, it didn't hold up even through the first string. This attempt at a mod was just a way to fill time when I got bored...

On the plus side my demon mysterioulsy stopped chopping with my Halo! (I shot a few hoppers though it to be sure... no breaks!!!) No other real tweaks or modifications! Weird... Must be those damn gremlins acting up again....

[MoogLe]

it was probably bad paint that was causing it the first time

[Icehawk]

Actually, I used the same paint from the unfinished case that I had bought the day everything went to hell. It was PMI Premium, so I'm not sure what fixed it, but all I know is that I'm happy it is... and that I'll be praying it doesn't mysterioulsy revert back next time I play!

[MoogLe]

well that's good news ;)

[Bjeff]

What boresize do u use?
Sounds like a temperature issue to me.
Was there a difference in temp since u played last time?
Metal shrinks when cold so if you're using big bore paint that could cause the problem.
Original barrel size is .687/.688 so if u start chopping again try a bigger size barrel.

[Icehawk]

I use a freak and matched the bore to the paint on both days... can't be barrel breaks because paitn was coming out from my breech block... that has to be chops