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CAZ
10-13-2003, 10:45 AM
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We forgot about the Matrix for a while after the news that Dye had bought the rights to the marker from Generation E. But while we were off gallivanting with new flames the A4 and the Shocker, Dye were working hard to make their mark on their new acquisition.

Today we recieved some pictures and following a few seconds of confusion we realized we were staring at the DM4 – Dye's brand new Matrix.

We only have a list of features for the DM4 at this time, but it looks like a tight ensemble. Here's what she's packing:

Matching Dye Ultra-light barrel
Integrated on/off air supply
Hyper2 in-line air reg
Internal anti-chop eye sensing system
170psi operating pressure
Adjustable trigger sensitivity
Light weight compact body
DM4 Sticky 3 grip
High intensity LED program control
Ergonomic 45 grip frame
Removable one piece component bolt system
Internal modular

Emmit
10-13-2003, 11:37 AM
what an ugly pos...:pileocrap :throwup6:

CAZ
10-13-2003, 11:45 AM
LOL, looks like a cross between an a4 and a nerve.

matman1
10-13-2003, 11:45 AM
i dono emmit i think it looks pretty nice

bacon bitz
10-13-2003, 12:15 PM
i think they look pretty nice.......and trixes shoot pretty nice, but damn i got my eyes set on a force 4.......

Kris1187
10-13-2003, 01:22 PM
that blue to black one is hot....

VASHtheSTAMPEDE
10-13-2003, 01:48 PM
I hope it comes in Green to Black.

SkeL
10-13-2003, 04:24 PM
hehe

thog94
10-13-2003, 04:31 PM
:biggthump Skel, that's the best version yet!

urza
10-13-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by SkeL
hehe

OMG you rock Skel!!!!!!

JTp8ntballer12
10-13-2003, 07:24 PM
thats my future gun (if anyone will buy my 4)

VASHtheSTAMPEDE
10-13-2003, 07:49 PM
It's Nerf or nothing.

luckdog
10-13-2003, 09:52 PM
What is this called.. the Dye "Elephant" matrix?

MoogLe
10-13-2003, 10:20 PM
hahaha skel,

yea luckdog it kinda reminds me of an animal too, not sure if it's an elephant,

kinda looks like a cross between an 03 shocker and an elephant :)

JTp8ntballer12
10-13-2003, 10:23 PM
it dont look that good...so what? it shoots good, and all dye stuff looks bad when it first comes out, cus dye always sets the new standard in looks

warpedx
10-14-2003, 12:55 AM
Interesting look. But I guess the interchangeable breech went away.
Nice though. Not sure if I want to hear the price tag...

chef-x
10-14-2003, 04:53 AM
ummm fugly

Johnnybravo60025
10-15-2003, 03:11 PM
is it me or does the body look like its made out of plastic? :doh: :nerd: :puzzled:

Deep Sixx
10-15-2003, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by MoogLe
hahaha skel,

yea luckdog it kinda reminds me of an animal too, not sure if it's an elephant,



Nope... definitely an elephant. And knowing Dye... it's got a price tag the size of one.

I don't like it. But then, I've always hated them.

sixx

boathouse
10-16-2003, 07:52 PM
yeh its a nerf gun...now thats gonna attract a lot of new players "wow they play with nerf guns"

morant
10-16-2003, 09:04 PM
dye told us 1350.00 on the phone

and i'm sorry....i'm not selling my angel for it but it does look really nice.

i can't wait till somebody gets one around here so i can take it apart and see if it's really still a matrix

NkSde
10-17-2003, 09:19 AM
Looks alright...Thinkin maybe they got a little mill happy...

But the way I see it, is that they killed what the matrix used to be..:lol: i always likes looking at that hunk of marker...with a bare half..and maybe some milling on the other side..:lol:

coreyguy1
10-18-2003, 01:00 PM
Great now its a good looking tug boat oring eater..

WarpedKid02
10-21-2003, 06:46 PM
Why you all haters of the trix? It's a great gun if you get a chance to shoot one. I know the Angel is nice, I shot one for two years, but I mean the Matrix is still a nice gun. The DM4 is actually smaller and lighter than the original Matrix.

A.Sanidad-AOG
10-21-2003, 10:27 PM
The DM4 actually looks pretty sweet in person. The Dye booth had a lot of them lining up their 3 tent booth. The bolt system is pretty sweet... all the internals are connected... and the lpr is inside the gun... the little notch in the front is actually a air bleed. It feels really light.. but when holding the Ironman one and this together.. I couldn't feel a difference.. when I first saw it in person.. it reminded me of a gun from the game Halo...

They have it there to shoot air through it and it is pretty fast... I can shoot the NYX faster.. out of the box though... it also has a dye symbol in the grip that flashes everytime the trigger shoots...

Unfortunately they are selling this gun for $1,600.00 here at the show.

MoogLe
10-21-2003, 11:21 PM
$1600 jesus christ, wonder what the retail stores will be selling it for

Docnlk
10-21-2003, 11:26 PM
they are taking preorders for $1395 on paintball gateway.

Viper
10-21-2003, 11:50 PM
I would never get one any way and now that ive seen the price i sure ill never get one its angel all the way! Acutally when i get around 1000 dollars im upgrading to a speed probably.

But i was wondering if any1 new its MROF?

xen
10-22-2003, 02:52 AM
What benefit does this have over the speed? Besides that it's a nerf gun

morant
10-23-2003, 12:05 AM
it's really nice in person.....the integrated on/off is cool.....the bolt is smaller and the lpr is in the back but it works exactly like the old ones....not like a new shocker or anything...rather just like the original just in a better package.

the Generation E guys gave it a great review and the Dye guys took one apart for me.....the eye/detent covers are sweet.

it feels good in your hands, very solid and a really nice feeling trigger.

i watched aftershock play their last 3 games w/ them and by god Nicky Cuba was dumping ropes of paint like nobodies business.

very impressive marker in action i must say and i'm pretty picky i don't like much and i look for flaws in everything and pick crap apart like crazy and the only bad thing i can say about one of these things at this point(having not played w/ one yet) is that they didn't have any gloss/polished colors.

TOpb
10-23-2003, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by morant
they didn't have any gloss/polished colors.

I just read that there will be a gloss black to gunmetal

morant
10-23-2003, 10:44 AM
i ment they just didn't have any at the booth.
i kinda figured they would eventually do em...dye usually doesn't miss a thing like that.

acoenfam1
10-23-2003, 12:09 PM
Everyone talking about how good it looks in person, I sure hope so 'cause it's BUTT @$$ UGLY in the pics. $1400.00 buck though OUCH!

thog94
10-23-2003, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by acoenfam1
Everyone talking about how good it looks in person, I sure hope so 'cause it's BUTT @$$ UGLY in the pics. $1400.00 buck though OUCH!


For 1400, I can get a Trix, A4, or Force 4
:puzzled: tough call...NOT

Docnlk
10-23-2003, 01:45 PM
I'm an angel lover as much as the next guy and all, but i don't think the choice between an a4 and a dm4 is as simple as "get the a4, it's an angel after all."
The DM4 looks hot, especially the gun metal to black. The new internal srtucture of DM4 (one piece design) is pretty nice, and the air bleed on/off on the front is a good idea.
As far as the A4 goes, it is a speed w/different milling, an lcd and a bunch of gimmicks (ie debounce, a gauge you can barely see and "micro" extrenal trigger adjustments). Angels are great, and I will always own one, but sometimes other guns are better. I think the trix is probably going to be a better choice.
Not to mention that the trix is lp out of the box without putting phallic looking volumizers on it that detract from the flowing milling design and look like crap.

BTW: Phallic= Wieners

WicKeDx
11-25-2003, 03:26 AM
In all honesty, the dm4 looks like a pos. Don't know what the hell they were on when they designed the way it looks. Hopefully it looks better in person.

VASHtheSTAMPEDE
11-25-2003, 07:19 AM
Honestly, it's a great gun. The board and eyes in the DM4 are made by the same guy who made the board and eyes in the NYX Matrix. So far, I've seen pretty bad efficiency from it, and it won't get much better due to DYE telling companies to stop producing all aftermarket products for the Matrix. Aside from this, the gun probably has the best consistancy and it is extremely fast. I'm also hearing of an issue with it being banned from the NPPL because of "added shots."

shaneOK
11-25-2003, 11:52 AM
the only downfall in matrices is their mateinence :pisss:

Emmit
11-25-2003, 03:19 PM
Shane you'd better be careful you're gonna be getting shot by one of them:doh:

evilempire
11-25-2003, 04:03 PM
This Dye Matrix looks like a piece of crap, Dye I'm sorry but the only place this thing should go is in a damn trash compacter. This is almost as bad as the Alien Species Timmy.

KFCarp
11-25-2003, 04:18 PM
yeah tha species timmy is kinda f'ed up......iam not a fan of this....this.....TOY!.....and i KNOW iam not about that price tag...dammmmmmmnn wtf are they thinkin...it aint no angel!

evilempire
11-25-2003, 04:26 PM
Yep thats why the say, Silly rabbit, trix's are for kids.

JTp8ntballer12
11-25-2003, 09:14 PM
the dm4 looks alot better in person, and its pretty fast too...

dynastySSS
11-25-2003, 09:58 PM
i kinda like the way it looks. one of my friends is getting one and then ill make my decision on what its really like

KEN CRANE
11-25-2003, 11:14 PM
friends dont let friends buy dm4s

whoop
11-25-2003, 11:19 PM
hey JT you know what this is ANGEL OWNERS .....if your standin up for that BS.....then i dont know

dynastySSS
11-25-2003, 11:22 PM
Originally posted by KEN CRANE
friends dont let friends buy dm4s

lol im with u but he did it n e way. i told him to get a 4 but i think the cost of techs and stuff scared him. o well

Emmit
11-25-2003, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by KEN CRANE
friends dont let friends buy dm4s

I always thought the saying was "Friends don't let Friends shoot Bushmasters":shocked:

but I guess DM4 fits too:lol:

dynastySSS
11-26-2003, 05:50 PM
its anything but angels friends dont let friends shoot anything but !!! and emmit what is with ur sig ur kreeping me out

RaistlinsLegacy
11-26-2003, 10:00 PM
AHHHH this was a talk on TAGS a while ago...jeeze come on people the angel can school any marker that comes out, im sry but Dye should never have gotten into it, dont get me wrong i love Dye's products but this was a sad, sad mistake

Emmit
11-26-2003, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by dynastySSS
its anything but angels friends dont let friends shoot anything but !!! and emmit what is with ur sig ur kreeping me out

as I run through the boards with sigs off I didn't notice it. Thank you for pointing it out, someone obviously thought they were being funny, and there's only a couple of people with that access.

angel_assassin
11-26-2003, 10:55 PM
It looks like it came from a dildo factory for god sake.

MoogLe
11-26-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Emmit
as I run through the boards with sigs off I didn't notice it. Thank you for pointing it out, someone obviously thought they were being funny, and there's only a couple of people with that access.


rofl what was in emmit's sig???

dynastySSS
11-27-2003, 12:14 AM
funny stuff big wigs can do

joda
11-27-2003, 08:44 PM
how much does dm4 weigh? more or less than a4?