halo B or egg2

[Moocow128]

I dont want to start another hopper brawl but I have a few quick Q's. First of all if I get a halo B (for my speed) will I need to get stronger ball detents or will it work well out of the box? The egg2 is cheaper but is it worth it for the Halo B? Thats pretty much it, thanks!

[acoenfam1]

Just about all the problems I've seen on here about the Halo seem to come from gun setup. I have a Halo, and A+ low rise and haven't had a problem. With my Egg and the Low rise I had I think two chops.

I'd say get the Halo. Just make sure your ram and detents are GTG.

[Moocow128]

Yea i was thinking about the A+ lowrise, how is that?

[acoenfam1]

SWEET!!!!!

[firemedic30]

Don't mean to be a bother, but could you describe what the A+ low rise is? What comes stock with the Speed? I also am looking into the HALO?
Thanks.

[NiteHawk250]

i think the stock is a little higher.. and the A+ lowrise is lower to the gun and is calmp i think.. but idk wait for mor epeople

[Maelstrom]

I don't suggest halo just because I've also heard a lot more problems with the halo chopping than the egg2. I have the egg2 and you really don't need to shoot more than 17 bps... Plus, it has a lower profile.

[Forge_55b]

well all the problems with the halo that i have seen mostly are due to not adjusting the ram appropriatly but with the halo i killed my sensi strip........this is after maybe 15 cases (maybe more) but this may just be a fluke and doesn't mean eggs haven't had that problem either.......

the halos very fast and consistent......i have yet to outshoot in semi only and the closest i did is pinch a nasty ball

[acoenfam1]

The new Halo software fixes the excessive force problem.

[Forge_55b]

yeah i forgot to mention that it was an older halo.....but either way the halo is faster then the egg but the egg holds more paint and is lighter.....also the eggs kinda ugly...but to each their own

[Jose_Rico]

Originally posted by acoenfam1
The new Halo software fixes the excessive force problem.

Z mode? It creates more tension on the ball stack.

Originally posted by Maelstrom
\ I have the egg2 and you really don't need to shoot more than 17 bps...\

Then why have a speed?

[F5monkey]

i like the halo.. i haven't had any problems with mine on the low rise or the stock rise.there are many things to consider.

looks ( halo )
price ( egg )
speed ( halo or egg w/ y board )
customer service of the maker ( halo )
colors availible ( maybe halo )
weight ( egg )
batteries ( egg )

just my opinion on these... decide what is your most important factor. mine was color so i went with the halo and have been very happy. at first it tore up some paint, but the paint was porr quality and way big. the egg will fit a slightly bigger ball than the halo. this was before i had a speed.

good luck on your choice

[Moocow128]

Good point jose!

[punkd]

Originally posted by Maelstrom
I don't suggest halo just because I've also heard a lot more problems with the halo chopping than the egg2. I have the egg2 and you really don't need to shoot more than 17 bps... Plus, it has a lower profile.

thats a problem with me because w/ my egg i eather walked my gun of the charts as in i cant "walk slow" or i had to just single finger it... but my gun is being a big pain int the a s s so idk

[pgaglio]

Have any of you who own new (manufactured after August 15, 2003) halos with the Z-code had problems with double feeding? It seems that a number of people using the new z-coded halos (not older TE halos re-programmed with the z-code) have had major issues with the force at which they feed balls.

These problems have been occuring mostly on Impys and new stiffer ball detents have not helped. Is there anything similar happening with Speeds?

[acoenfam1]

I haven't had a problem with mine.

[boathouse]

you could wait till after cup and get an egg with the new z board

[F5monkey]

Originally posted by boathouse
you could wait till after cup and get an egg with the new z board

what will this do over the y board?

[DogSniffMe]

http://www.pbstar.com/pn/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&page_id=66

here's the info on it. it seems breathtaking. lol

[DogSniffMe]

i use an egg 2, gonna get the z board, and i also have a turbo revy. they both rock my pants off.

[SPLAT1]

I HAVE AN EGG AND I PLAY WITH A GUY THAT HAS A HALO ON HIS AND TO BE HONEST NEITHER ONE OF US HAVE HAD ANY PROBLEMS BUT I CAN TUCK MY EGG OUT OF THE WAY EASIER

[MaToCa]

ok, first of all i have a new halo with the new software.
heres what goes wrong with it, one ball comes down so hard it pinches it creating 2 balls smashed togther. so now i am getting a eggo next. why ? cause i can, lol. anyway i was so mad i thought about selling or trading the gun away, this after playing with it for the first time. i have a tequila sunrise and this is truelly a killer gat, but the rof from the speed is unmatched as far as i have seen. either way im gonna give it another try in a week or so after i get the eggo and will let yall know what happened.

[acoenfam1]

You usin' a Low Rise? You're describing the problem SOME, and I stress SOME, people were having with the Halo/Stock rise.

[VASHtheSTAMPEDE]

Why do they want to limit the Z-Board to 22bps? Shouldn't they develop it to try for more?

[Moocow128]

Yea, why does 22bps seem to be the new limit for everythig?

[NiteHawk250]

i think ur supposed to set the bps under the feed rate of the hopper

[BONES]

Originally posted by Maelstrom
I don't suggest halo just because I've also heard a lot more problems with the halo chopping than the egg2. I have the egg2 and you really don't need to shoot more than 17 bps... Plus, it has a lower profile.


Egg does not have a lower profile man. The egg is huge, I hated it. I bought a halo and I love it. When I would get bounce with my egg it would always chop, with the halo, I havent chopped once.

[Moocow128]

Wow. People sure have strong opinions about hoppers...

[Icehawk]

I have a HALO B with the Zcode and RipDrive upgrades. In my opinion, the HALO is a far superior product. First off, I don't like supporting Brass Eagle whenever I have the choice. Some people complain about the HALOs being unreliable... Not True. All you have to do is COMPLETELY disassemble it, clean it and reassemble it whenever it starts acting up(which is hardly an inconvienence considering the preformance you get). Though the eggys don't really have this problem, their shell, in my experience, is weaker than the HALOs and will break before taking as much abuse as a HALO can. HALOs typically feed more consistantly as well. If your HALO ever breaks down, the techs at Odyssey are really quick and responsive to whatever your problem might be. I have had no problems whatsoever with my HALO and A+ lowrise so far. I love it and have NEVER outshot it. If you have the RipDrive, you can get around the problem of HALOs smashing the first ball by gentily turning it to charge the stack before you turn the loader on. If you have an eggy and the battieries or electronics/mechanics die, you're fux0rd! You can at least keep feeding with the HALO if you have the RipDrive. Also IMHO, I beleive that the eggys are fugly, and no matter what people tell you, LOOKS DO MATTER! Having a pimpin' rig will definately increase ones ho-factor. :cool:

Anyone who bought an Angel did it for one or both of these reasons:
1. To look like a badass
2. To make sure you hit someone at least 4 times when you tag them out
3. To make n00bs mess their pants even before the game starts
4. To try and pick up (or at least oogle) the sales girls in the multiple booths at tournamnets by showing off your mad skillz and gear

I'm sorry, but I just don't want something that looks like a giant rocky mountian oyster (bull testicle) coming out if the top of my $1200 gun.

[Maelstrom]

Originally posted by Icehawk
I'm sorry, but I just don't want something that looks like a giant rocky mountian oyster (bull testicle) coming out if the top of my $1200 gun.

lol... You make me want to trade my egg in for a halo b =/

[Forge_55b]

well all i know is i can outshoot the egg......but with the halo the most ive done is pinch a ball but im gonna blame that on the paint......halo force feeds and is fast.....and yeah its not a giant bull testicle popping out the top of the gun

[Xquisit]

well the egg i think has these advantages. Egg carries more balls almost as dast. Infact viewloader is going to soon come out with the new z-board which can help it feed 22+ bps. Just as fast as a halo and the egg doesn't weigh like a ****in brick ontop of ur gun, especially with paint in it.

[pgaglio]

I just put an A+ low rise on my speed and was using it with my eggo. Man was I chopping like a mofo, even with sensi on in mode 3. It was disturbing. I didn't have this problem with the stock rise. Now I may have to get the halo.

[Moocow128]

I dont even get the new egg board. How can u possibly even feed 22bps without forcefeeding? But then it would just make the egg into a fat halo.

[RaistlinsLegacy]

the egg is too tall, i have seen way to many hopper shots off of them, they are slow, and hiddeous, the halo is shorter, feeds faster, adn everything that the egg isn't, however now i am in a quandry, the egg is definitely too slow, and the halo is also...hmmmmm...time to find a Q loader..

[tok3n]

When the Z-board is released, someone should do some tests like side by side feeding speed.

[Maelstrom]

Most people can't shoot faster than 17 bps, plus who cares if its fugly(yes the halo performes better but egg is cheaper). If its too high then you can cut down the feedneck with a hacksaw, IMO the halo is taller. If you have the money for the halo b then go ahead and buy it but if you want to save your money get the egg. I think you get your money's worth out of that than the halo b, unless you are someone who can shoot mad fast. I know I can't shoot over 15 bps, and to me, accuracy and timing is more important than speed.

[Moocow128]

Thats a good point Maelstrom but the speed looks soooo sweet it would be a shame to ruin its appearance with an ugly hopper. lol

[acoenfam1]

Actually I measured the Halo/A+ Low Rise combination against a cut down Egg/Standard Rise and they measure the same hieght. I just like having the extra performance on tap that comes with a Halo.

[RaistlinsLegacy]

yes...you CUT the egg....damnation need a faster hopper, i missed the Q Loader exhibit =at IAO what does everyone think of it? 40 BPS seems good enough, if the egg is slow, the halo is slow, and everything else is, then going Q seems natural..i just dont like the way it attatches to the gun

[motocrossdude7]

i have an egg2 on my speed and it works fine. I have had no chops. My friend who has a speed has a halo b and has chopped multiple balls

[Tikiman]

dont get a halo it forces the ball in the breech and really messes with ur intellifeed

[Jose_Rico]

Originally posted by Tikiman
dont get a halo it forces the ball in the breech and really messes with ur intellifeed

You have no idea what you are talking about.

[pgaglio]

Originally posted by Tikiman
dont get a halo it forces the ball in the breech and really messes with ur intellifeed

uhhhhh????????:moon:

[bigshunner]

i shot a speed all weekend with a halo b and it rocked. the egg2 is also a great hopper, given the choice i would rather have the halo b.

[acoenfam1]

Originally posted by Tikiman
dont get a halo it forces the ball in the breech and really messes with ur intellifeed

I haven't seen a HALO with an intellifeed yet! This is a new one :duh:

[RaistlinsLegacy]

lol i dont think that it is possible..can the gun supply enough energy to the halo?hmmm....besides VL went all to hell afte BE baught it..

[acoenfam1]

Originally posted by RaistlinsLegacy
can the gun supply enough energy to the halo?

Nope, Speed Battery=4.8vdc
Halo requires=9vdc

[paintguy]

i like the evo2 i use it it keeps up with me plus they just made a new board the z board it claims to do 22bps but it is still in the middle of testing, good luck in the search for the hopper you can check the z board at world cup in orlando florida..

[RaistlinsLegacy]

ohhh Z board for eggy...hey the Halo's got a Z board..lets see that is now Over 50 BPS bursts, and like 27 constant BPS...man the egg most definitely compares to that! lol hmmmm they are both slow now....

[JT2002]

Halo B TE all the way baby! :smile: