My speed wont stop chopping

[mazin]

Here is my facts:

- Running preset into thor with 450 psi into mini reg
- Halbo B /TE
- Stock barrel
- Fresh Bigball paint
- 2 Full charges of the gun
- tried ALL sensi mode
- tried non sensi
- cleaned bolt and breech totally out
- cleaned and inspected sensi rod
- passes sensi test.


THis is whats happening:

- random chops (first shot chop, chop during string, chops during any time shooting)
- Blender effect( chops like mad wont clear )


Whats going to happen if i cant fix it:

- Selling this expensive paint blender and buying a new dye trix


If ANYONe got any ideas of can help PLEASE help me. I have yet to have a good day of paintball with this POS.

It shot well for like 500 balls when i first aired it then since it has chopped like nuts.

[Xquisit]

Ok, first Ive heard halo b's cause chopping problems so either get a new hopper or get a low rise somewhere for the gun. 450 preset psi should be fine, so set ur dwell to about 13. And when u have sensi on try sensi mode 3. This is basically what i have it on and have never chopped once. But I have a different hopper so just try that and tell me what u think.

[Forge_55b]

is the ram adjusted correctly cause that might be causing it and have u tried handfeeding paint in yet or any other tests......

[mazin]

i havent hand feed yet ill try that tonight.

cant see the halo b being a prob tho.

is it hard to adjust the ram??

[j15r]

first off the stock barrell sometimes has sharp i dunno what it is where the holes are and that could cause something, so throw that away get another barrel, if your going to use a halo the modes are either 1 or 2 not 3 or 4 those are for agitated hoppers, try lowering your pressure just alittle bit and put your dwell to like 10 or 11. And like Xquisit said halos cause chopping and i agree with him i think they do too so borrow a egg or a revvy and see how that works. please post your results

[Forge_55b]

for the ram u need a toolkit and if u don't have one u can use c clip pliers or some relaly small allen wrenchesand just turn the ram on the threads till the bolt clicks with the hammer when u close the breech

[mazin]

ok i just adjusted the ram, now to test it in my back yard

[Xquisit]

mazin..ive heard and read problems with speeds and halos causin problems which includes choppin. Idk but it maybe ur tank but probably as i know sometimes presets can cause inconsistecy

[mazin]

im hoping on the thor smoothing out the input into the gun. the thor is bringing it down from 900 psi to 450 psi.

[mazin]

hrm i just shot a bag of paint thru it and no chops, i think the ram adjustment did it. ill post a forsure result later

[j15r]

glad its starting to look better for you.

[acoenfam1]

With the halo gun stet up is VERY improtant. If the ram is off or the detent springs weak you'll have problems due to the second ball in the stack being pushed slightly into the breach. I went through a case today with my halo and didn't chop a single ball.

[monkeeman777]

your using big ball is too big for the barrel...

[taimaishu47]

actually big ball is a little bit of a small fit it rolls right thru my stock

[mazin]

ive found bigball changes A LOT from case to case. it has gone from a perfect match in my stock barrel to totally rolling straight thru in another case. i havent seen it too small yet tho. We normally get real fresh bigball too.

[acoenfam1]

If it's rolling straight through the barrel then it's to small.

[JT2002]

halos causing speed to chop? blah blalh blah. :smile: i never totalyl realized how great a halo was, till i shot off a mad fast entire hopper of paint, thought sensi was workin great, then looked at my board. omg, sensi was off! :smile:

[monkeeman777]

oh ok cause i tried matchin some big ball to my stock the other day and it simply wouldnt even come close to getting in the barrel

[mazin]

yeah either way im gonna get a big ultralite or maybe a freak kit


gonna wait for skyball tho, hopeing for some nice prices :)

[mazin]

i just ran 500 balls of the worst paint i could find (Zap Sport) thru it and no chops. i even had it in the red while i was walking it. I think i finally got my speed dialed in and ready to go.

Thanks for everyones help

[monkeeman777]

im real glad your speed is working top notch (good insurance for me when i get my speed( cant wait!!!!!!!!)) have fun and tear it up

[punkd]

OMG THIS EXACT THING WAS HAPPENING TO ME. no matter what i try chop chop chop so its in teh techs right now and i'ma have him mess w/ my ram. ty

[Ricky]

ahhhhhhhh i have the exact problem.

and i dont have circlip pliers or a ram loacation tool and im playing tomorrow.

[mazin]

i used 2 wire like peices of metal. all u need is 2 things that fit into the holes that let u get a grip to twist the ram. it isnt hard to move. B4 i adjusted mine the breech opened and closed with not snapping sound. now there is alittle click when it closes and she runs GREAT. i can even turn the sensi off and turn my halo off and shoot thru the balls in the stack while walking and no chops. Im like one of the happiest angel speed owners on here now :)


ANGELS RULE!!

[acoenfam1]

Ram or detents seem to be the biggest reason people are chopping with Halo's. Like I've said before you have to set up the gun correctly if you want it to perform at its best.

[Ricky]

alright today i used my halo on my speed with the stock rise and only 1 chop through the whole day. im gonna get some circlip pliers tomorrow that will be able to go with the ram to se if i adjust it it will work with the low-rise. Though when i close the breach it does click a little, maybe its just a little off. and if that doesnt work im sending my gun to my local shop to get tuned and fixed up so everything works 100%.

[acoenfam1]

When you do it remember you set the Ram with the gun aired up. And it should "snap" in place.

[monkeeman777]

gosh i want a speed so bad but i d k if i wana get rid of my LCD!

[dye man]

sorry for going off the subject but how do i get a picture under my name on the left side.

[Forge_55b]

wow ive read so many people with problems with their angel chopping and its almost always been fixed with ram adjustment......i think the manual should have had like a ram setup page or something......but then i guess angel owners group needs stuff to do too hehe

[Ricky]

haha yes it worked, i adjusted the ram and now the halo works perfect with my low-rise, thanks guys, i just wish i did this earlier because it would have saved me a lot of time cleaning chopped balls in my gun.

[acoenfam1]

Originally posted by acoenfam1
Ram or detents seem to be the biggest reason people are chopping with Halo's. Like I've said before you have to set up the gun correctly if you want it to perform at its best.

Glad you got it workin'

[F5monkey]

congrates..... no go whoop some a$% on the field

[pntbalmatt]

would ram adjustment stop the gun from chopping with an egg? my sensi is perfectly clean and passes 10/10 and calibrated and mode 2 and doesnt chop with a halo, but once in a while it'll chop with the egg.

[acoenfam1]

Had the same problem when I installed the low rise on my gun. I think it has more to do with ball bounce/feedstack hieght than with the loader.

[F5monkey]

Originally posted by pntbalmatt
would ram adjustment stop the gun from chopping with an egg? my sensi is perfectly clean and passes 10/10 and calibrated and mode 2 and doesnt chop with a halo, but once in a while it'll chop with the egg.

do you have a fever? what is this madness? the egg chops and the halo doesn't.

[acoenfam1]

With the Low Rise mine did! Exactly three times. My HALO hasn't yet.

[aerotcus]

Mode 2 is for halo's am I correct? Try a different mode with your egg, like mode 1.

[acoenfam1]

Rumor has it that modes 1 and 2 are for the EGG/Halo while modes 3 and 4 are for the Revy. Is this true, I don't know. All mode 2 does is introduce a slight delay (less than 10 msec, I saw a quote from Frazier on here) into the firing cycle if the Sensi doesn't detect a ball, while mode 1 will not allow the gun to fire at all.

[garfieldz32]

acoenfam1,

Sensi 1, like you said, will not allow the gun to fire at all...

but when dry firing in Sensi one... it just keeps firing (at a slight delay)... just like Sensi two.

I know the marker allows a clearing shot (thus, allowing the dry firing), but how does it know it is allowing a clearing shot from firing and a ball just isn't present??

Have you tried sensi one and had it just not shoot cause a ball was NOT there during the window of opportunity? That's what I want (like my ACE'd Andrenaline)

I plan on using Black paint this weekend and will be using EGG instead of HALO... Don't want a chop at all.

[acoenfam1]

I do know that if the Sensi doesn't detect paint when you turn the gun on it defaults to a mode similar to sensi off. And as such will fire.

[Duckcall]

i have heard this also i dunno how true it is or helps you with your problem in mode 1 you can out shoot the sensi by pulling the trigger 3 times within a second and it will shoot no matter what i dunno if im right just something i heard

[aerotcus]

I would never use mode 2 with an egg. the egg isnt fast enough. I've never used the new z board ones but I know the regular egg wouldnt keep up with the speed.

[RaistlinsLegacy]

LOL ever see a blender go overboard? thats what you will have if you use anything besides sensi one or 3 with an egg...and i am glad to hear you have your halo working with the speed....makes it much nicer dont it?

[deadeye_85]

so how do you make sure that your sensi detects paint when you turn your marker on to ensure it doesn't operate as if snsi was off? Would you turn marker on then turn loader on so first ball hits sensi when speed is on, or havea ball on sensi and then turn marker on?

[JT2002]

do whatever you want. then slowly (like 1bps) fire about 8 shots, you should now be good to go, unless u turn the gun off. EVERY time you turn the gun off you have to re calibrate the sensi