Debounce Settings?

[BlueC&CIR3]

What is the fastest setting you all have that is still legal for debounce? I want to set up my new a4 (its in the mail!!!) to as fast as possible. I know if you set the debounce at 1 it will be full auto, but where can i set it to be really fast but not full auto? Just wondering if anybody had any suggestions from their experiences.

[Emmit]

when I spoke with Jim this afternoon he said that a setting of 4 was really good.

[Kdog-13]

I experimented a little the first day but it was crazy easy at an offset of 7. I set it back to 18 and it doesn't bounce at all. I would experiment with paint to get it set how you like it.

The guns will slip by refs if the refs don't know how the gun works. here is the scenario:

You have your trigger offset at 5 which will give crazy bounce, you also set your mrof at 11. You go up to the chrono with your gun live but the sensi off. Gun shoots smooth and consistant. You get ready to play and you turn your sensi on. Now the trigger offset is enabled and mrof for sensi mode is 30 bps. Your gun drops mad paint dowm field and you win. After game switch your sensi off and confidently chrono off.

scary huh.

[idiotkid]

I have mine Set at 10. It works really well for me, not alot of bounce, and it chronos fine. And it FAST
-Pete

[BlueC&CIR3]

Originally posted by Kdog-13
I experimented a little the first day but it was crazy easy at an offset of 7. I set it back to 18 and it doesn't bounce at all. I would experiment with paint to get it set how you like it.

The guns will slip by refs if the refs don't know how the gun works. here is the scenario:

You have your trigger offset at 5 which will give crazy bounce, you also set your mrof at 11. You go up to the chrono with your gun live but the sensi off. Gun shoots smooth and consistant. You get ready to play and you turn your sensi on. Now the trigger offset is enabled and mrof for sensi mode is 30 bps. Your gun drops mad paint dowm field and you win. After game switch your sensi off and confidently chrono off.

scary huh.

omg, i was thinking the same thing as well! The sad part is, you could really get away with this almost all the time unless you had a ref at a psp/nppl event who knew exactly how the a4 works.

Thanks guyz for the info. I guess its kind of a trial and error thing.

[morant]

i'm still not a fan of turbo mode or trubo bounce....it's acceptable cheating imo...what happened to one shot one pull, what happened to semi only?

as if the triggers nowadays aren't easy enough to rip on....it's like all the timmy freaks and their guns filling in the holes that they can't hit on their own.
if you can't do it and you need your gun to do it for you....that's cheeze.

personally during play, i could care less if your putting 8bps on my bunker or 16, i don't care if you wanna run full auto on a rec day and put endless streams of 13 twords me....it doen't matter if your bouncy azz timmy is doing 22+
it doesn't change the level of play, if you can't hit somebody w/ 12 i'm sorry to tell you that your 'kill ratio' will not increase dramatically if you double your rate of fire.

again bounce is a semi-legal way to run turbo mode, it's like an ego boost for dry firing freaks who get and inferiority complex when they hear a marker go 'faster' than theirs.....get over it.

why don't we all just go full auto and screw up the whole game?
what happened to skill?

as for the settings.....there is no magic number that will do it...it all depends on how you have your trigger adjusted as to what number you'll need....
remember it's called DE-bounce as in remove bounce.... not bounce as in get more balls per pull.
i do thinks it's rather sad that there will always be ppl trying to push the limits of the rule book and that soon angel owners will be in the same light as timmy owners.
there are many things you can do as an individual to up your game w/out relying on your marker for a crutch to make you feel like you are doing somthing that you can't.
guns nowdays can easily out perform anybodys fingers, therefor you can truly shoot as fast as you can possibly pull....why is that not enough?

sorry to rant....i just really think it's terribly silly.

[Kdog-13]

Agreed.

I was sad that WDP lowered itself to adding trigger offset.......but I totaly understand from an economics point of view why they did.

[BlueC&CIR3]

i agree as well, i just want to see how fast this thing will actually fire though. I also hate all them timmy owners who talk about hitting 25 bps and **** on their gun w/out paint and air. I mean, their guns can't cycle 30+ bps like a a4 can.

[Kris1187]

true, its time the angels can boucne back for a change and be number 1 again. And with the 4 thats exactly how its gonna happen.

[idiotkid]

It will fire at 28 BPS with paint. At least thats how fast mine has gone. It was set with not a very short pull but longer, and had debounce setting on 10. It wasn't bouncing like crazy, it just fast. So Blue C&C its 28 so far.
-Pete

[captncrunch]

I think de bounce settings are great. It adds versatility to the gun, with some guns you can't set the trigger short with out getting bounce, with the de bounce feature, you up it a little bit and boom, tourney legal and the trigger is the way you like it. WDP didn't "lower" themselves. They added a feature that is useful and people wanted. Why the hell would you want harc coded debounce on a gun that can have the trigger set to the point where you can't see it move.