angel 4s not shipping

[KEN CRANE]

sorry guys but i deleted the thread about a4s not shipping.i deleted it becuse info was being spread around that isnt true.the a4s are still being shipped around the same dates as discussed.they were due to leave england around the 21st.it takes about 2-3 weeks to get thru customs and to your local dealer.the delay was in part due to packaging and owners manuals being printed.so dont worry they are on time and heading your way soon.i felt this was the best way to squash any false info being spread around the internet. ken crane

[JTp8ntballer12]

and my bad day continues...

mos said they would be in on the 15th of sept, is that pretty accurate? or do you suspect more complications?

(im wondering if i should skrew the new 4 and get a demon)

[Emmit]

JT honestly if you get a Demon do you think you'll be as happy as if you'd waited for the 4?

I think if you wait the extra week or so you'll be a bazillion times happier with the 4. Just my 2 shiney copper pieces

[JTp8ntballer12]

harr, but i havent paintballed in MONTHS....AGES..... i cant even remember the smeel of the SC cow shet any more!!!

its still 2 more weeks (4 days of playing) that i have to wait, and then who knows about the rest of the time that this will be delayed, thats why i want to know if ken thinks it will possibly be delayed more..?

[Emmit]

bah...doesn't matter...I still got my IR3, and waiting on the 4 is only gonna mean I might not get to use it in the next couple of practices...it'd be nice to be able to use it a couple of times before my next tourney, but oh well...what can you do:dunno:

[C]-[iLDe]

Originally posted by Emmit
...I still got my IR3, and waiting on the 4 is only gonna mean I might not get to use it in the next couple of practices...

Ditto.

BTW, thanks for clearing things up Ken.

According to an email I got from TAG, they will be shipping A4s around the 3rd or 4th week in September. God i hate waiting.

[idiotkid]

I'm with Emmit too on this one. I still have my Ir3 that I can use. The way I see it is that the wait will be worth it. I just hope I have mine for the 27th, if not then the Ir3 will get some more action.
-pete

[JTp8ntballer12]

well you see, you guys got your ir3s...i havent got an angel....this is my first (like that commercial at the car wash) and i just cant wait and have fun with a ir3, i can just pull the trigger on the tippmann...(its the only gun left after selling all my others)

[desiree]

definitaly wait for the 4, youll be one of the firsts to have it and youll be a lot happier with it than a demon.

[JTp8ntballer12]

yea..i guess u guys are right..waiting will be better, in the long run

[desiree]

definitaly, no more happy banana? hell be happy again when u realize that the 4 is the better gun you ever shot! lol i wish i had an angel 4 on the way, lol id be happy just knowing its on the way! lol but i know what your going through iam not a patient person myself.

[rdny7026]

From the factory direct to you the post about Mo's is the
most accurate. The guns should arrive on the shelves
of the dealers late on the week of the 15th of September.
Just pray that customs doesn't stop them like they stopped
the first run of Speeds coming across.
Repairman

[desiree]

thanks for the info rodney. good luck in miami.

[KingPuny]

Originally posted by rdny7026
From the factory direct to you the post about Mo's is the
most accurate. The guns should arrive on the shelves
of the dealers late on the week of the 15th of September.
Just pray that customs doesn't stop them like they stopped
the first run of Speeds coming across.
Repairman

^^^^Tehe. That was rodney squires, thats cool :)

[JTp8ntballer12]

uhh yea.... thx tho, so.....i acually thought that the current delay was a customs things....now theres gunna prob be another delay (customs are evil)



happy banana wont be back for a while

[bacon bitz]

jt, you can buy my speed if you really dont wanna wait........... haha pm me if you want...............haha guys it was worth a try.....

[JTp8ntballer12]

no speeds, i dont liek the way they look (i know it dont matter but i care) im in a toss up between the a4, or dynasty a4, and not likely the demon...

[Sarcaz]

Dude, just wait. The time will pass quickly, trust me.

[JTp8ntballer12]

well, ive been waiting all summer, and with all this hellish school BS going on it will not past slowly...even if i was screwing the girl of my dreams it would not pass quickly...well maybee then, but nothing else...trust me

[JTp8ntballer12]

ahh, north shore hardcore, thats not why im so pissed in the least... it has contributed to it tho, and ive been working my ass off for quite some time to get that gun, and turned down a car as well, so sorry if im kinda pissed when it gets delayed for a month.
and if some starving people came to me i would feed them, but there not comming, so to bad for them

[warpedx]

Originally posted by JTp8ntballer12
if i was screwing the girl of my dreams it would not pass quickly...well maybee then
...must...resist...insult....
A4 or Dynasty A4 will be great. If you can manage it, wait until the Dynasty comes out, then you'll know for sure that you got what you wanted.
And I'll be mean here....why not wait for the dark 4 to come out? It could be better than anything ever seen before!

[JTp8ntballer12]

i dont think im gunna wait for the dark cus the dark angels are more, well dark and the WDP direct guns are more sexy IMO, the dark ones are more serious, and im not at all serious...

[C]-[iLDe]

BAH i highly doubt that very many of us are going to have these damn things in hand before early October, the way it looks.

[JTp8ntballer12]

if it doesnt ship sept 15 im for sure gunna cancel, wdp should plan these things, then they will have anxious customers not impacient waiting customers

[MoogLe]

Originally posted by JTp8ntballer12
if it doesnt ship sept 15 im for sure gunna cancel, wdp should plan these things, then they will have anxious customers not impacient waiting customers


*yawn*,

my ir3 was singing today
:niener: :niener: :niener: :niener: :niener: :niener: :niener:

[C]-[iLDe]

And mine ripped yesterday and saturday ... all the same its inconsiderate of them to take preorders almost 2 months before the damn things are released, then have the audacity to continually delay them...and i STILL havent seen any pics of the polished black (which is what i ordered).

If id known i would have to wait this long, i would have just waited. The cash has been paid, but i have absolutely no indication of when im going to see my marker, no word from anyone. Thats absurd considering what i've spent; WDP usually has better customer service.

I'm never pre-ordering another pb product again. From now on im going to just wait until someone actually has it in stock on their shelves. I've learned my lesson.

[Angel_4_ever]

so there soposed to ship in stores the 15th ?

[Emmit]

I believe in speaking with Ken he's expecting them within the next week or so.......but don't take that as gospel, I may be mistaken.

[KEN CRANE]

there leaving cali on monday of next week.looks like we all will be getting 10 in the first order.

[idiotkid]

Ken, do you know what colors will be on the shipment? Since they were delayed is the shipment going to include dust colors?
Thanks
-Pete

[KEN CRANE]

all colors are availible

[Omikron]

Do we have a status update on the situation? Are we still slated for a Monday ship date or did they forget to print the warranty cards this time? Does the ship date apply to all AOG sponsers? Namely, I'm concerned about Mo's paintball since they charged my account almost a month ago now.

[Emmit]

According to a post from Ken they are shipping to the Sponsors on Monday. He expects to have them in on either Tuesday or Wednesday. Then the sponsors just have to turn around and get them shipped out to the customers.

[vassllizaitsev]

The should be shipping out of here on fri. I am upgrading all shpping on
pre-orders to next day air.

Ron from MOS said this the other day in an e-mail and yes Friday is TODAY!

[C]-[iLDe]

free next day air shipping is always nice, lucky for you!

Hopefully mine will get to me before the end of the month. :sad: :cry:

[MoogLe]

yea ron always does those kinds of things to satisfie his customers, he's great :)

[Emmit]

Originally posted by vassllizaitsev
The should be shipping out of here on fri. I am upgrading all shpping on
pre-orders to next day air.

Ron from MOS said this the other day in an e-mail and yes Friday is TODAY!

but that goes against what Rodney said about when they were shipping. According to what Ken said (and I heard from another retailer) Rodney was making phone calls and saying that the 4 were shipping to stores on Monday and they were going to be shipped like 2 day air or something. Then the retailers just have to turn them around. Expect it by end of next week.

[C]-[iLDe]

Ken Crane and TAG (on AO) both said that they would be getting 10 A4s in the first shipment.

Id LOVE to know if every service center that is getting A4s has sold them all already, ya know? Say for example there are 15 service centers each receiving 10 A4s for a total of 150 A4s shipping to the states right now - are all of them already sold? Or are there still some free ones?

I wonder because i find it odd that WDP started accepting preorders so early, then when the guns finally DO ship - almost 2 months later - only a measly 10 go to each service center? Was WDP trying to make sure a certain number of A4s were sold before they shipped to the states? Maybe they wanted to make sure each service center had 10 preorders before they shipped any?

I dunno, just speculation to kill the time between now and when i get my A4. :angel:

[MoogLe]

sounds like what happened to the sony playstation 2 when they were first released

[JTp8ntballer12]

i remeber that...i was almost as excited as i am now

so the A4s will ship out of england on the 15th (mon) and arrive to the centers on fri, then 2 day air to all the service centers?

[Hep]

Originally posted by JTp8ntballer12
i remeber that...i was almost as excited as i am now

so the A4s will ship out of england on the 15th (mon) and arrive to the centers on fri, then 2 day air to all the service centers?

Ken said "there leaving cali on monday of next week.looks like we all will be getting 10 in the first order. "

From my understanding is that they will leave cali to all the sponsors/dealers on monday and over the next couple of days they will have recieved their order. Then they will ship to customers, so basically you probably wont get a pre-order until the end of the week like Emmit also said.
Hep

[russ]

As far as I know there are 15 shippments of 9 Angel 4's each.
So everyone that is scheduled for delivery next week will receive 9 Angel 4's.

And I do believe they will be shipped out of Nebraska on Monday.

[C]-[iLDe]

russ, are you getting any polished black ones? Ive heard that WDP isnt doing any of that color right now; can you confirm that?

[russ]

I believe I am gettin 2 black polish ones.

[idiotkid]

Russ, Have you found out if you are going to have the 4's before you leave on Wednesday?

[Angel_4_ever]

I GOT MINE heheh red polished (instead of black dust long story..)

[C]-[iLDe]

post pics already!

[Emmit]

Ken.......where's mine.........arrrgghghhhh I'm like a little kid at Christmas today....

[JTp8ntballer12]

:dito:

i thought they would have shipped by today

[Omikron]

Yeah.....I'm thinking WDP lied to us AGAIN. If indeed they WERE shipped out by 2-Day from CA on Monday, then Mo's should have gotten them Wednesday at the latest. I called them today, Thursday, and they STILL don't have them. WDP is starting to cheese me off.

[idiotkid]

I ordered mine from Russ. So It should be here. However, I am at School and the mail sucks. So I probably won't see it until tomorrow if I am lucky, or most likely Monday. The Suspense is killing me!!!

[JTp8ntballer12]

I bet theres something wrong with mos...if its not shipped by tommorow Intimidator Owners Group is gunna have a big as$ post whore

[Omikron]

I am personally getting rather sick of [Insert Mo's/WDP] non-answers. They've never given me a straight answer on anything other than price. They'll gladly take your money but god help you if you're looking for information regarding your order.

[C]-[iLDe]

Originally posted by Omikron
I am personally getting rather sick of [Insert Mo's/WDP] non-answers. They've never given me a straight answer on anything other than price. They'll gladly take your money but god help you if you're looking for information regarding your order.

Ah yes, welcome to my world.

"Hurry up and give us your money! Ok, now sit over there and wait."

At least you know yours in en route. I know for a FACT that TAG didnt even get any color of the A4 i ordered, so GOD knows when ill see mine. Its really unreasonable.

I will NEVER preorder another PB product again...from now on, im waiting until the stuff is in stock somewhere.

[JTp8ntballer12]

but the thing is, mos wont even tell you if yours in en route yet

[R.Vogel-Mo's]

we have not yet recieved any A4's from wdp. we should have recieved them wednesday but havent. most likley we will recieve them tomorrow (fri). all pre-orders will be filled in the shipment we are expecting and will be upgraded to overnight shipping for free.
JTp8ntballer12 - if you like i will cancel your order and refund your money so you can try and get an a4 elsewhere. just send us an email.

[R.Vogel-Mo's]

Originally posted by Omikron
The way Mo's has handled this situation has left a very sour taste in my mouth. I severely doubt I will buy a marker from them again. Although I understand when you pre-order a marker you cannot change certain things, the manner in which Mo's treated their customers was absolute horseshnit. I'm very disappointed in their service and more than anything else, their integrity.
Omikron- to what bad treatment are you refering? Like i told jt i will gladly cancel your order and refund your money. in what poor manner were you treated? the only reason the a4's havent shipped is because we havent recieved them yet from wdp. if you are who i think you are, i spoke to you 2 days ago on the phone and you didnt seem to have a problem them . i am upgrading everyones a4 shipment to overnight(including yours), because of wdp's delays, not ours.

[Omikron]

First of all, I would like to apologize to Mo's Paintball. After reading my posts, Ron IM'd me and we had a little chat about the whole situation. Most of my agitation and anger was caused because of the way WDP handled things and not Mo's. There were a few bits of misinformation floating about both online and from people who answered the phone at the store and it caused unnecessary tension. I do NOT want to make it look like the delay is due to negligance on the part of Mo's.

P.S. Their site is down due to a DNS change.

[C]-[iLDe]

And they all lived happily ever after...

[Angel_4_ever]

i got mine the 17th red----halo b-----apocolpse old school nitro tank---- this gun rocks

[idiotkid]

I GOT MINE!!!!!! Dust Black. I am so happy. Pics will be up later ths weekend

[Emmit]

here's to hoping mine gets here soon:x:

[vassllizaitsev]

lol no joke emmit im with u 100% dude im going insane i want mine

[Omikron]

deleted by ken crane as not being a nessesery post .

[vassllizaitsev]

ya dude same

[vassllizaitsev]

Just called mos and the guy said i should be getting mine on tuesday/monday :)

[Kdog-13]

Check out the pics in the A4 pic thread. I am a happy camper!

[Emmit]

Originally posted by Kdog-13
Check out the pics in the A4 pic thread. I am a happy camper!

I'm so jealous right now.......argggghhhh that's the color I am getting, and because of this ground shipping thing, I'm not gonna be able to use it at practice this weekend, and I've got a tourney next weekend :wall:

[vassllizaitsev]

I got polished black coming to me

[Emmit]

Guys it's not the tech's fault. Apparently as stated there was a mix up and the markers didn't go out until later than originally stated. Then it seems there was a problem with the shipping. Some vendors got theirs today and some didn't. Those that didn't are not any happier than we are. They were all promised something and in turn told us. Trust me when I say that these guys are extremely upset about this whole thing right now. There's just not much that anyone can do right now except say sorry, and that they'll ship them out immediately next week. :sad:

[vassllizaitsev]

ya guys its just another week we have been waiting so long we all can wait another week and if its not there for u guys then i say go insane start calling WDP and stuff get info and tell them how much crap this is. then maybe u can get a special order ;)(doubt full but hey worth a try :D)

[KEN CRANE]

guys,let me speak up on this.alright the guns are a little late.we all want nothing more than to get your guns to you and keep you happy.no one lied to anyone.a couple of days are not going to kill anyone.i know everyone wanted to play with their new gun this weekend but if you look at the time line its almost impossiable to ship on monday get them wendsday test all the guns and get them to you for the weekend.this situation has made many of us here as well at other tech centers seriously think of stopping taking preorders.i hope i am not being offensive but remember if you didnt preorder it would be first come first serve.sooooo 9 lucky people dealing with 16 wdp dealers will be the first people to get your guns.i hope you dont read arrogence into my post but i didnt get much sleep last night after getting a phone call at 2am on my cell phone from somone obviously not in my time zone looking for his gun!!

[acoenfam1]

I'm glad you chimmed in Ken. I thought Emmit was gonna blow a gasket :sad:

[Emmit]

Originally posted by acoenfam1
I'm glad you chimmed in Ken. I thought Emmit was gonna blow a gasket :sad:

nah...I been on the phone, e-mails etc with Ken pretty regularly......I'm keeping a cool ahead about it all

[Kdog-13]

I definately think the techs are taking the brunt of WDP's mistake. Unfortunately they can't make a stink about it because you can't bite the hand that feeds you (Tech centers need WDP to be cool about product distribution). I am sure the techs would have loved to get 50 A4s a piece 4 weeks ago but they were told 9 a peice shipped Monday of this week and it didn't happen.

Now everybody is mad at the centers for things beyond their control.

Maybe I am just happy since I'll be rocking it tomorrow but I was ready to wait a day.

[acoenfam1]

Originally posted by Emmit
nah...I been on the phone, e-mails etc with Ken pretty regularly......I'm keeping a cool ahead about it all

Just messin' Emmit it's all in fun.

[JTp8ntballer12]

has the first shipment of 4s from mos shiped out yet?

[Emmit]

JT........no....Ron still hasn't received his yet. There's a lot of the centers that didn't even get them yesterday.

[JTp8ntballer12]

ok, thanks, cus i was worried i might not have been in the first batch

[vassllizaitsev]

Emmit Ron told me he got them in, And are sent out the first batch, Hes gone all weekend so i dont even know if i was in the first batch, But he said he got them in.

[Emmit]

okay maybe he did....:dunno:

[JTp8ntballer12]

Originally posted by vassllizaitsev
Emmit Ron told me he got them in, And are sent out the first batch, Hes gone all weekend so i dont even know if i was in the first batch, But he said he got them in.

ha, i dont know if i was in batch 1 either, i thought i was but now im thinking i wasnt

[vassllizaitsev]

Well guys i called Mos today and i guess he lied to me i talked to one of the guys there and he said hes getting 2 shipments in tomorrow and wednesday so if ur in 1st or 2nd batch u will have them hopfully by next week, errr i wanted mine today or tomorrow like he told me:(.

[Omikron]

He didn't "lie" to you, vassllizaitsev, he simply relayed the information that WDP gave him. If you want to blame ANYONE, blame WDP in LA. They told all the service centers they'd ship out the guns last MONDAY via 2-Day. Instead, they shipped them out Wednesday via UPS Ground. It's not Ron's fault your marker isn't here yet. Cut him some slack; he's doing the best he can.

[Emmit]

Seriously guys.........it's done and over with. Some centers have theirs some don't. Those that don't should have them tomorrow. There's nothing any of the service centers could've done. Trust me when I say that they are not happy with the way this thing has gone down. I'm closing this thread because it's over and done with and going nowhere anymore.