View Full Version : Anyone here know how to write palm software? (you know where this is going)
poobrownhorse
10-22-2002, 10:04 PM
First off I want to ask for NO FLAMES. I dont want this thread flooded with responses saying there is no use for the extra firing modes.
Regardless of about a billion times being told no, the palm software will not unlock astm, I still tried. hehe
I noticed in the software you could select "EXTRA" instead of ASTM and then with extra selected you could select firing modes, so I put it in full auto and beamed it to my iR3. The palm said it was successfull! I was so excited to go shoot trashcans in my backyard!!! Then on the ir3 I went to where it used to say ASTM and it now said EXTRA and NOACC alternating. :(
Anyone wanna take a crack at whats going on?
Im beginning to feel the lock is within the gun itself now, anyone think its a hardware lock now? Lets get some theories going.
poobrownhorse
10-22-2002, 10:20 PM
Notice im not the one volunteering to check if its in the hardware :p
My Ir3 has had Extra NOacc for ever and i have tried everything to get around it. I think you have to plug sumething into it where I found that plug.
Please find out how.
I will paypal $100 to the first person to figure it out, and help me get it unlocked.
I just want the modes.
lol poo this got moved. I will pay 50$
poobrownhorse
10-23-2002, 01:32 AM
Hey lets start a pool to give to the first person to figure it out and share it with the rest of us! Maybe we can just use it to bribe WDP!!!!!!
if we get 25 from every ir3 owner we could defenitly do it.
poobrownhorse
10-23-2002, 02:19 AM
Dont get your hopes up haha
WarpedKid02
10-23-2002, 07:44 PM
If it is saying EXTRA NOACC there should be a way around it. On the LCD's for Y and Z modes, it says No Acc. There is a way around it, so there might be one with the iR3.
vinrock
10-23-2002, 08:39 PM
see if you can decompile the software. Maybe you can see in the code wether or not it's restricted in the palm software or the gun itself.
poobrownhorse
10-23-2002, 08:54 PM
I dont know crap about programming... who does?
WE need to hire a programmer.
Wait matt is a programmer!
WarpedKid02
10-23-2002, 10:42 PM
Can you pull up the string of numbers(Data) of the gun like on the LCD? If you can there has to be a way in there.
I couldn;t tell you, im on a mac and the program is for pc. Those Computerists.
mazin
10-24-2002, 12:13 AM
i have gone into the code but i dont really see anything as of yet. ill keep looking
poobrownhorse
10-24-2002, 01:49 AM
yeah you better keep looking :tongue:
vinrock
10-24-2002, 01:55 AM
Mac :doh:
CodeMonkey
10-24-2002, 06:08 PM
Keep in mind that the code is encrypted. I have been playing with this for a while now trying to reverse engineer it with no luck yet. It will crack though, eventually.
Emmit
10-24-2002, 08:51 PM
guys FYI that plug with the sticker that says warrantly void if it's broker...guess what...when you give your gun to the tech at Cup...he open the grip and checks that sticker...then he breaks it and pulls out the plug so that he can plug his laptop into it to do the upgrade...so there's a little tidbit of info for ya
WarpedKid02
10-24-2002, 09:37 PM
Mazin send me a PM of your code on your gun and I will look at it.
Tempest261
10-24-2002, 10:48 PM
Yeah banking off of what Emmit said- I don't think the palm software is powerfull enough to "unlock" the IR3 MEM software. I think you'd likely need a whole new software upgrade/reinstall (via the tech's laptop) that has unlocked modes. I'm sure there are different flavors of the MEM software versions.
So... someone needs to figure out how to connect the board with a hardline to a PC.
WarpedKid02
10-24-2002, 10:58 PM
Well if Emmit said that the techs plug it up into there computer, then there has to be Data Link of some sort, you just need the software for it.
Tempest261
10-24-2002, 11:00 PM
not to mention a cable..
WarpedKid02
10-25-2002, 10:10 AM
Has anyone tried these with there palm software?
NICKLES2 - ENABLED TURBO/SHOT MULTIPIER
CARBIDE6 - S/N SET AND SHOOT COUNT RESET
NITRIDE8 - ENHANCED MODES ENABLED
LITHIUM9 - ENHANCED MODES DISABLED
SILVER10 - READ COMMAND
COPPER11 - WRITES COMMAND
CARBON12 TURBO/SHOT MULTIPIER MODES DISABLED
:puzzled:
C.Carles-AOG
10-25-2002, 10:37 AM
If I had my filthy paws on an IR3 then you bet I'd be at work on this...
WarpedKid02
10-25-2002, 01:57 PM
Yeah that is true
:)
WarpedKid02
10-25-2002, 07:32 PM
Hey mazin check your PM's.
WarpedKid02
10-26-2002, 02:12 PM
Has anybody been trying anything out yet. What about the codes I gave out, and if anyone can pull up there Data String from the board send me a PM and I can look at it.
I am getting virtual PC and I will see.
Mac is a apple macintosh computer.
MBCover
10-27-2002, 01:41 AM
Alright check it out... If I remember correctly (if i'm wrong my whole theory is false but...) on the LCD you may unlock Y and Z modes with the data link (that is the statement which if false my theory is wrong). Find somebody with a Data Link and try it out on your IR, if it doesn't work than all you have to do is find somebody with a little more of a brain than myself (however I do know somebody) to modify/update the programing for the Data Link and presto, everything you used to be able to do to the LCD with the Data Link you can now do with your IR!!!
If none of this is possible you will have to wait for WDP to come out with a updated Data Link or something similar for the IR
WarpedKid02
10-27-2002, 10:54 AM
Thats the thing the Data Link has 4 pins for connecting to the board. On the IR it has 5 pins to plug in. Your theory is correct. You can unlock Y and Z with NICKELS2.
[----] <LCD
[-----] < iR3
alokin
11-14-2002, 11:32 AM
i believe that the gun is not locked!!!!!!! its the software it self that does not sent the correct commands to unlock the gun!!
its pretty easy to unlock the gun If you have the right commands!!
and thats the hard part to get hold of them!
:) anybody here that has a friend that works at WDP??? :)
Old Timer
11-15-2002, 09:40 AM
What is NICKELS2 that has been mentioned above???
Emmit
11-15-2002, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Old Timer
What is NICKELS2 that has been mentioned above???
that was one of the codes used to unlock one of the modes on the LCD. To date there is no way to access anything other than Semi on the IR3, and apparently WDP has no intentions of releasing anything either
psyberhigh
11-19-2002, 03:05 AM
If the unlock codes are software bound and not controlled via hardware, this is not as hard as you might think -- big IF here.
I know of a Palm application decompiler. It reads and decodes any Palm application resource file (.prc). The palm .prc file is made up of several different 'resource' files -->
Alert Resource - The Alert is a small dialog used for simple interaction with the user, what you see when you run the application from the Palm Pilot; useful as they provide good landmarks for disassembly.
Bitmap Resource - Used to display images on the palm to support the user interface.
Code Resource - Used to store the executable code; the real meat and potatoes of the app.
Code0 Resource - Used to initialize the application and determines variable memory allocation.
Data Resource - used to hold static data read by the application at execution time.
Of interest are the Code and Data Resources both of which can be read and modified with the decompiler. The decompiler can read the Data Resource display it as a hex dump format, with both the hexadecimal format and the ASCII representation (human readable).
Examining and modifying the data resource and recompiling the source back to PalmSoft.exe and then updating the IR3 via the new executable MIGHT allow an unlock. Hmmm....
One would of course need to consider the legalities of doing so. Food for thought.
Old Timer
11-19-2002, 01:14 PM
You own the marker so you can customize it however you want.
The big question is what will happen when that Attorney who bought his son an IR3 decides to start a "class action" law suite against WDP for falsely advertiseing 26 modes and only providing 1. That is what's against the law in the USA.
You all know how class action law suits are popular in the USA because they are so profitable for attorneys. I like the WDP guys alot and wish them luck in their decisions.....Chuck
Emmit
11-19-2002, 01:36 PM
What you fail to realize is that the marker is advertised as capable of 26 modes of fire. It never states that is has 26 modes of fire. Yeah it's all semantics and how you say it, but it's the truth. The marker is capable of 26 modes of fire, and WDP keeps showing us IR3's shooting in full auto. So they are being truthful. It has also been stated here in a couple of different posts that the ASTM has basically made it's regulations on full auto markers, and they have no intentions of going back and changing them.
onslaw
11-22-2002, 01:24 PM
Crazy man,
IR3 has a rolling encryption key.... GoodLuck.
JoHaN313
12-16-2002, 11:27 AM
it is a device within the marker............
justic7
12-18-2002, 03:55 PM
another way to force ir3 it's catch the ir signal by notebook and modifie ...
team_relay
01-06-2003, 11:39 PM
doesnt warped sportz have a video of an angel shooting full auto? there not WDP guys mabye they'll hook it up with some modes
Emmit
01-07-2003, 07:27 AM
Originally posted by team_relay
doesnt warped sportz have a video of an angel shooting full auto? there not WDP guys mabye they'll hook it up with some modes
all of those videos have been released by WDP, and no just like any of the other techs with the ability to do so, they will not unlock it.
warpedx
01-07-2003, 02:52 PM
There could never be a lawsuit against WDP for locking the iR3s in Semi. It clearly stated that it was only available in some areas.
the thread that will not die ....
http://angel-owners.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117&highlight=unlock
:evilgrin:
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