iR3 Firing Modes [Archive] - Official WDP Angel Owners Group

Ming

08-27-2002, 02:12 PM

Still chaps my ass just thinking about it ! :angry:

WDP's decision to deactivate these modes was not fair play to people who think they are buying a gun with 26 modes and get 1.

ASTM standards are voluntary.

WDP still sells select fire boards for other guns. (LED)

poobrownhorse

08-27-2002, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by J.Fearing-AOG
I don't think a single one of those people have taken their marker back, asked for and received a refund.

Maybe not, Im looking at possibly buying an angel and this has really made me start looking more at other guns, that was part of what made an angel unique.

MorpheusX

08-28-2002, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by J.Fearing-AOG

But look at the autococker, impulse, intimidator, etc... all of these come with semi-auto boards.

Ahh yes .... the autococker semi board... lol since when did cockers come with boards lol :tongue:

and guys who cares about the modes...

sure it may be nice to Say you have 26 different modes and maybe fool aorund with different modes but the only one your allowed to use is semi so it really doesnt matteer. Well thats just IMHO

Bigdog

08-28-2002, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by MorpheusX

Ahh yes .... the autococker semi board... lol since when did cockers come with boards lol :tongue:

Lets not adopt the old ostrich stance now. Just cause the core of the 'cocker has been going forever, don't discount them from being cutting edge - raceguns, e-blade, etc

But that is apart from the central issue, I wonder how WDP even got onto the idea of extra modes, cause it has been illegal in the UK for a long time. :sshh:
I think that the modes being disabled will make everybody's lives easier in the long run - its not fun having to explain to every second marshall that NO your marker is NOT set on auto, you had a mis-spent youth playing pinball & that has given you an abnormally fast trigger finger.

I still want to get an IR3, but at the moment finances dictate that my LCD will have to do. :angry:

Bigdog

08-28-2002, 11:36 AM

Thats cool, I still want one, all I need now is a sawn off shotgun & I'll go & talk to my bank manger about a withdrawal. :evilgrin:

C]-[iLDe

08-28-2002, 02:49 PM

I find it hard to believe that some people REALLY based their decision to purchase an iR3 on the presence of superfluous, unnecessary firing modes! With all the other great features of the iR3, it strikes me as odd that people would be most attracted by the firing modes. Not only are they potentially unsafe, but in every instance I've seen, players who use these firing modes get talked about and made fun of!

poobrownhorse

08-28-2002, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by J.Fearing-AOG

But look at the autococker, impulse, intimidator, etc... all of these come with semi-auto boards.

I think most people need to get by the fact that when you bought an angel it wasn't the modes that justified the means.

Right, thats why I DID begin to look at those guns, but in the end it seems either way the angel is the superior gun. I think im going to get an iR3, its going to be tough to give up my cocker but im sure after playing with the angel it wont be so bad :)

BlueC&CIR3

08-28-2002, 07:34 PM

russ

08-29-2002, 05:23 AM

All the new timmy boards are semi only.

Ming

08-29-2002, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by MorpheusX

Ahh yes .... the autococker semi board... lol since when did cockers come with boards lol :tongue:

and guys who cares about the modes...

sure it may be nice to Say you have 26 different modes and maybe fool aorund with different modes but the only one your allowed to use is semi so it really doesnt matteer. Well thats just IMHO

Sandridge Autocockers do have boards.

and guys who cares about the modes... I do if WDP knew they were not going to unlock them then don't try to sell this as a feature on the gun.

chesyrcat

08-30-2002, 06:56 AM

So do the Firestorms and the Race cockers...

js3324

08-31-2002, 09:49 PM

What do the modes matter? Who cares, really....all you can actually make use of in a tourny is semi-auto so the other "25" or whatever modes really dont matter. I don't find this to be such a big deal...full auto and burst are just toys to play with, after a week they get boring as hell, so I really don't see a point to 26 modes.

poobrownhorse

08-31-2002, 11:21 PM

All I wanted was full auto, its not going to affect my decision to buy the gun but I really wanted to play with it in my backyard and the occasional full auto game would have been pretty intense.

The-One

09-01-2002, 04:01 PM

If you find one with modes unlocked just fetch, and send then your will be unlocked. I've seen one unlocked, but I didn't have my gun. But he said he would e-mail me next time he's in my area so that I could me him to unlock mine.

warpedx

09-01-2002, 08:40 PM

I bought my iR3 knowing about the semi-only deal. Would I wat the extra modes? Hell yeah! Why? I dunno, it'd be fun to play around with. Regardless of modes, its still and awesome marker.

perpetuul

09-03-2002, 04:39 PM

you don't even need all the modes. in tourney's you can only use semi-only

Nickerson

09-03-2002, 04:52 PM

I'm actually glad they locked all the other modes out. Saves us angel owners a lot of hassle of getting it locked, or getting a SOB for tournaments. When its obvious that the angel is a high end gun, used mostly(not always by any means) in tournament situations, why would they make it illegal to use in a tournament straight out of the box?

Ming

09-03-2002, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by perpetuul
you don't even need all the modes. in tourney's you can only use semi-only

thanks for clearing that up, I see you point, but let your hair grow a little and maybe no one else will see it.

:clown:

ronisaurus

09-07-2002, 12:47 AM

What would a game be like if full auto were allowed? Would it be that much different? Would everyone choose to set their markers to shoot as much paint as it can? I think that a marker with a 3 round burst would be a blast to play with when snap shooting. But the way you can set your trigger, so fast and light, that it can be a safety concern.

ASTM feels that the consumer cannot be responsible. I guess WDP agrees with them. Seems kind of arrogant to me. I guess when you can make a marker that performs, then I guess you can be. But I still bought an IR3, and it has peformed flawlessly, err except when you run out of batteries, after forgetting to charge your marker, and forgetting to bring your charger....lol.

bluepeter7

09-15-2002, 11:30 PM

i get the feeling that alot of you think that only tournament players use angels. well this might shock and amaze some of you.....i do not want to be a professional paintball player! yes i did feel ripped off when i got my ir3 and the modes were locked. i am a rec player. i think i deserve the modes of fire...that's what all of the ads told me...i believed them...why wouldn't i? the led and lcd had multi mode capabilities. i should get what i paid for....the gun has the capability but for some reason i can't access it..that is a total rip off. needless to say i am very disgruntled.

vinrock

10-07-2002, 01:01 AM

i just bought an ir3 c&c, should have it this week. Just read about the locked out modes after I had ordered it, dissapointing but i'm still going to get the marker. I don't play in tourneys, i just wanted something to shoot squirrels with and play with my buddies on the weekends. I don't think it'll be too tough to enable the other modes, im sure someone has done it already. If the programming is stored on a flash chip maybe it'd be as simple as beaming a modified (or copied from an angel in a non-restricted region) program back to the gun? Or maybe you can burn a new chip and replace the one in it with a modified program.. I'm anxious to open the thing up and see what the guts look like and what I can do to make this happen.

steveo

10-08-2002, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by vinrock
I don't play in tourneys, i just wanted something to shoot squirrels with and play with my buddies on the weekends.

:lol: Haha, letting loose on squirrels at 20 bps!!! :lol:

Bigdog

10-09-2002, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by vinrock
If the programming is stored on a flash chip maybe it'd be as simple as beaming a modified (or copied from an angel in a non-restricted region) program back to the gun? Or maybe you can burn a new chip and replace the one in it with a modified program.. I'm anxious to open the thing up and see what the guts look like and what I can do to make this happen.

Isn't that sort of thing exactly why WDP have sealed the board, no tampering.

PaintballPhreak

10-11-2002, 12:40 AM

i have all the firing modes:evilgrin: look at my thread for more details.

vinrock

10-11-2002, 12:40 PM

I ended up ditching the IR3 I ordered and drove out to eastcoast paintball to purchase a new 2k2 LCD.

I do not play in tourneys so the 26 firing modes were a big deal to me, I play recreationally and use it to shoot squirrels in the back yard...

But - after checking out the data connections for this LCD, i bet hacking the IR3 is simple, no need to any chip programming or replacing, etc.

I bet it's already even been done. Maybe once that's been confirmed i'll pick up another IR3 and give my bro this LCD.

vinrock

10-11-2002, 12:43 PM

the board is enclosed in a plastic case... not titanium or kryptonite :tongue:

Just grab a butterknife and pry the thing open, or somethin....

Bigdog

10-11-2002, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by vinrock
the board is enclosed in a plastic case... not titanium or kryptonite :tongue:

Just grab a butterknife and pry the thing open, or somethin....

Yeah, and take duct tape & wrap it around the body of the marker so you don't need those pesky screws.
I never said it was difficult to open the casing, but I like the fact that the board is sealed, that way if you buy a second hand IR3 yu can almost be certain that some dick hasn't been messing with the board.

Action75

10-11-2002, 06:42 PM

i dont know when i will get it to work, but right now i am trying to hack the programming to allow all the codes to be unlocked. I've been trying for the past month, and let me tell ya, its a bitch. When i finally get it though ill drop a line to you guys and give it to you :)

HIGGINS

01-22-2003, 10:17 PM

Where exactly is it that it's not illegal to have all the firing modes?

And can't you just order/get the board or software via the Palm Pilot software from there and open up all the modes.

I would also like to add that i am only a rec player and was VERY unhappy to find out when i got my IR3 that it didn't have all the modes. I don't want to shoot squirrels, but i do want to play with the extra features. At the price they are, i want EVERYTHING advertised about this marker.

Emmit

01-22-2003, 10:33 PM

Higgins...no offense dude, but I think we've killed this topic. No you cannot use the player version of the software to unlock anything on the marker. The tech's are the only ones with the software to do so, and as of right now it doesn't look like they are going to be doing so anytime soon. As for wanting to use the various modes.....well we've discussed that as well....almost every paintball insurance company says no full auto, hence the reason that most fields do not allow this. Now if your field does, that's all fine and dandy, good for them. However you also need to make sure you read the fine print when you make a purchase of this magnitude it says "26 modes of fire, where aloud" (or something along those lines.) Since the ASTM says that multi shots aren't safe, and has encouraged manufacturers to stop production of them WDP was simply the first to comply with this regulation. So let's all read everything before we start digging up topics that are old, and have been hashed out 100 times, ok...thanks.........