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mychemicalromance
07-08-2003, 07:57 PM
how in the world do the revys that dynasty have keep up.... do they got some kinda r n d prototype revy .. lol just curious...

Eclipse
07-08-2003, 08:16 PM
from what I hear there X-boards and there guns have eyes and MROF is set to 11 if im not mistaken

dark2k2LCD
07-08-2003, 08:22 PM
no Mr. canadian, they x-board can feed up up to 14. (believe me, i would never be caught dead with one) If they have eyes why would they have to lower their MROF.

the front players use them because of their small profile, the back players use evoIIs

(yes BE has a total monopoly on the pro sponsorships)

Eclipse
07-08-2003, 09:53 PM
not all the guns have the eye......and I know the xboard can feed up to 14 but not constently I have a halo on mine and have the MROF at 18 for reduced choppage (with the halo its highly unlikely but I put up with enought **** with timmy whores that they chop so with the MROF setting I dont chop and still let her fly like heaven

P.S. lol thats a good one on Mr.Canadian at least u spelt it right :smile:

paintballaholick
07-08-2003, 10:42 PM
y wouldnt they use reloaders...they ahve a bps of 15.Hey every ball counts!!!

deadeye_85
07-09-2003, 06:30 AM
Empire make the re-loader, and Dynasty are supported by VL I believe.

paintballaholick
07-09-2003, 09:54 AM
yea...thats true!

matman1
07-09-2003, 09:59 AM
i dont get the small profile thing, isnt the differnece between the revys and eggs liek less then an inch heightwise? does that really matter?

Emmit
07-09-2003, 10:25 AM
the Evlution2 really does change your profile significantly as well as the balance of the marker, I like it.

BONES
07-09-2003, 02:03 PM
Vls dont feed 14 bps consitantly. There has to be a gap for them to spin, which is wh i dont like VLs, I like halos.

customIR3...
07-09-2003, 02:34 PM
all of the dynasty guys that use revys, really dont use the x-board, they take revy shells and put either a turbo rev or reloader kit in them, by doing this it looks like their using stock revys to keep their sponser happy but there hoppers really have upraded boards, i use the empire reloader kit on my revy with my lcd w/ ace and it is still fast as hell, i also use a evo 2 wgich is off the chains :drools: :duh:

matman1
07-09-2003, 02:35 PM
and how do you know this?

Emmit
07-09-2003, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by matman1
and how do you know this?

it's been speculated a couple of times but never proven, and rumor isn't a very popular one either, so it leaves a lot to the rumor mill

SPEED2003
07-09-2003, 03:26 PM
there is nothing worng with revys the feed an ok feed rate.. o ya emmit what does WS:4eva mean? warpted sports? or west side?

dark2k2LCD
07-09-2003, 03:43 PM
warped sportz for ever

MoogLe
07-09-2003, 04:45 PM
i doubt they use upgraded boards, i dont think vl would like that too much

Prophet
07-09-2003, 05:19 PM
SPEED2003 - It means 'Warped Sportz 4 Ever'. Emmit is a huge fan of Dark Angels.

As far as Dynasty's Revvies, I was looking through the pics of Toulouse 2003 on Force of Nature and noticed that a few of the Dynasty players had their Revvies setup with Intellifeed. Others had Evo2's (probably with y-boards).

Rocketman164
07-11-2003, 04:57 AM
An X-board rev will not feed 14bps, that maybe a peak if you're lucky. I was chopping way too much with mine (every other game) and I was shooting 11-12 bps, I picked up an egg and a dozen cases later no chops :smiley:

That is a good question though, I can't see them using revs with other internals, my guess would be that they tone down their MROF...

dark2k2LCD
07-11-2003, 05:43 AM
12volt x-boards are only supposed to go 12 i thought.

If you look at the front players, they really arent shooting that fast. maybe thats why ollie likes his LCD

shaneOK
07-12-2003, 09:32 AM
well i have a 12 volt with x-board, and i set my mrof to 10(which is easy to hit consistently) i started to skip. oh yea, and a friend of mine put the eggs internals in a revvy, no lie.

JTp8ntballer12
07-15-2003, 03:03 AM
ollie is using his "throwup" black2bronze ir3 a lot instead of his dye angel or 2k3, the revys seem to keep up....watch the B dvd and hes only shoting like 5-6 bps for the most part

angels are cool
07-15-2003, 07:53 PM
I took to revy shells and put a turbo rev kit in it :smile:

angels4life
07-15-2003, 07:56 PM
i use a really fast revvy and it barley keeps up with my speed i shoot i shoot like 16 17 bps and i chop sometime but who cares i still like it

angels4life
07-15-2003, 07:57 PM
i dont use a angel speed i use an ir3

JTp8ntballer12
07-16-2003, 04:28 AM
how can a revy feed 17?

DynastyIr3
07-16-2003, 03:47 PM
Heres the secret. I'm not sure if Dynasty or other pro teams use this, but I do. I have the 12v Revy w/ X-board and Vortex Impellers. The Vortex Impellers have 6 blades, instead of 4, and feed a lot faster. It is a hard molded impeller, so balls can't get stuck under them, and is molded so that it doesn't throw balls around. It actually cups the balls and drops them in into the gun. This will keep up with any gun, but if you do decide to walk the gun, it will be out shot like crazy. Most of Dynasty's players who use the Revy don't really walk their triggers I believe, and if they do they do short bursts at a time.

dark2k2LCD
07-16-2003, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by shaneOK
well i have a 12 volt with x-board, and i set my mrof to 10(which is easy to hit consistently) i started to skip. oh yea, and a friend of mine put the eggs internals in a revvy, no lie.

how did he do this? the battery/board compartment is much fatter on the egg than the revvy. LMK, i would like to try that

JTp8ntballer12
07-16-2003, 08:29 PM
1. whats lmk?

2. i agree with dark, a lil more so though, imo its fricken near impossible to put egg internals in a rev shell

DynastyIr3
07-16-2003, 08:49 PM
LMK stands for "Let me know."

As for the Egg internals in the Rev, I think it can be done with some modifications to the Rev shell. I'm not sure, but it seems right haha.

JTp8ntballer12
07-16-2003, 09:00 PM
i guess if u made modifications to make your rev like alot wider..

DynastyIr3
07-16-2003, 09:09 PM
Or possibly they made a few modifications to the Egg internals.

Absolution
07-18-2003, 06:30 PM
It would seem plausible that they use some kind of internal upgrades on their revvies. Think about it, if nobody notices or cares about the internals, then VL is getting the most out of their sponsorship. People see the revvies and say, well if Dynasty uses them...then why shouldnt i?

cody11scrappy
07-18-2003, 07:18 PM
exactly

DynastyIr3
07-18-2003, 07:19 PM
I said that in my head. I've always love using Revies and always will. Best hopper design and mold IMO.

cody11scrappy
07-18-2003, 07:40 PM
yeah, why couldnt they just make a egg motor that you could put in a revvy

DynastyIr3
07-19-2003, 02:06 AM
Because then it would be an Egg.

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 06:49 AM
no, and egg has to have the egg shell, we just want its guts

DynastyIr3
07-19-2003, 07:00 AM
You're asking why VL can't just make a motor like the ones for the Eggs. The reason is because the motor is what makes the hopper. If they made put the Egg's motor inside a Revy, it wouldn't be considered a Revy anymore. If you really want to keep the Revy but you're not satisfied with the feeding rate, get what I got, which is the Vortex Impellers, it works wonders. Also, try to get your hands on a Turbo Rev. They are now discontinued, but you can find one used for cheap. It replaces your X-Board and makes the Revy feed a little faster. Turbo Rev combined with the Vortex Impellers should feed very nicely, almost if not at the speed of the Evolution2.

All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Revy, works real nice, and don't plan on changing hoppers anytime soon. I play mid on the field, and the design and shape of the hopper works great.

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 07:17 AM
what all you talking bout, its a EGG BECUASE OF ITS SHAPE. we dont call it a 12 volt. we want its motor to be put in a revvys shell

DynastyIr3
07-19-2003, 11:04 AM
Yes we call it the Egg because it's the shape, and we don't call it 12v. But we call 12v's, 12v Revy's because because of their feed rate. The motor is the core of the hopper, not the shape of any hopper. The Egg does not feed the high rates that it does because of the shape of the shell. So we come to my point. Will a 12v Revolution still be considered a 12v Revolution if it had an Egg's motor? No. Leave it at this.

jabbster
07-19-2003, 11:08 AM
But the egg has a specific shell made for that motor. It is force fed, sort of, and the revvy is not. Therefore the revvy motor and the egg motor would not work in one another. They might sipin the paddles, but it wouldn't work because of the differances. You might get a egg motor to spin the revvy but the paintballs are not being force fed, so it would just throw them right???

Sincerely,

The jabbster

DynastyIr3
07-19-2003, 11:28 AM
If you make any modifications to a 12v Revolution hopper, it's not considered a 12v Revolution. You guys might refer it as "It's not a regular 12v Revy." Guys on professional teams or VL sponsored teams that use Revy's are not aloud to change anything in their hoppers. You add one thing (for example, the Vortex Impellers) and its no longer what your original product was.


Jabbster, it's obvious that the internal part of the shell in an Evolution2 is wider than a Revy's body. Let's assume that you some how some way got it to fit though. Would that still be a 12v Revy? The design has totally changed, it doesn't feed the same way, and it feeds faster. This would not be a 12v Revolution. It could be in the Revy's shell, but like I said before, the shell is not what the hopper is named after, and what it is known for. It's the motor which can feed faster rates.


And to reply to Cody, it's not even called an EGG. That is a nickname, the real name is Evolution 2 remember? That name has nothing to do with the shape of the shell, nor does the Revolution. The 12v Revolution is called that because it revolutionized hoppers. The Evolution was called that because it evolved from Revolutions.

jabbster
07-19-2003, 11:52 AM
Dynasty, I am not sure I agree on the fact that after you change something it is not a revvy anymore... It is still a revvy no matter what... That is just what I think...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

Emmit
07-19-2003, 12:18 PM
have any of you guys taken apart an Evlution and actually looked at it?

the motor is the exact same motor, it has the same patent number, and is label revolution motor.

The difference in the 2 loaders is the board, and obviously the impeller, but the impeller can be easily switched. The board is what makes the hopper. They made things on the board work faster, and it also draws a little more power out of the batteries. Ever pick up an on OLD VL Shredder? Those things were true 18volts. They used 2 9v batteries just as a Rev does today, only they used almost everything that battery had to offer, and they were fast as hell!!!!

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 12:19 PM
whatever the shell says...whats a turbo rev? can someone fill me in?

jabbster
07-19-2003, 12:30 PM
It is a revvy made by wicked air sportz... I think... And it is alot faster than a regular revvy, it was supposed to feed like 16bps or something close to that.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

DynastyIr3
07-19-2003, 01:07 PM
Turbo Rev is a board that replaces your X-board. Like Jabbster said, it feeds balls a lot faster. They are discontinued so if you find one for sale, snatch it.

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:32 PM
is it force fed then? or just spin uber fast?

jabbster
07-19-2003, 01:33 PM
It just spins super fast...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:37 PM
...cant gravity only feed like 13 was it?

jabbster
07-19-2003, 01:38 PM
Yes, but these feed faster than that, don't ask me how...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:38 PM
gravity feeds at like 60bps

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:40 PM
....no!

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:41 PM
yes.

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:42 PM
no....

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:43 PM
gravity pulls objects at like 9.8meters per second squared. therefor, if you were to have a straight pipe full of paint, and the tube was 9.8meters tall. it could feed all that paint in 1 second

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:45 PM
it dont work like that though... i think...r u saying my VL200 can empy hopper in 3 and a half seconds?

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:48 PM
nope, the balls would get stuck. the only thing the propellers are for are to keept the balls falling, why the heck do you think you have to shake it then. not to speed it up, but to just get it going

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:49 PM
i believe i just "burnt your toast"

jabbster
07-19-2003, 01:52 PM
He is right cody, gravity can only feed 13bps. Go to warpig they have an article on it.

Sincerely,

The jabbster

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:54 PM
if that was true, no one would ever chop using a VL 200, but they do...

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:55 PM
thanks jabb

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:55 PM
warpig is wrong. i know my fisics (what i dont no is spelign

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:56 PM
didnt you see what i sad, its from the balls getting stuck and not being constant

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:56 PM
emmit, you know what im talking a bout

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 01:57 PM
i know physics too...things fall at 9.8 m/s/s mot 9.8 m/s ...theres a diff dude...basic 8th grade science tought us that...and the paintballs have resistance too, stoping them a little bit.

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 01:59 PM
i know what im saying dude, didnt you understand the thing bout the big long tube, thats why a high rise is better, cuz you have more balls lined up for feeding

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 02:01 PM
btw, i said 9.8 meters per second squared not 9.8m/s

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 02:01 PM
whatever...i dont realy care what gravity can feed i give up...it feeds at light speed...all i care is that my egg can keep up..

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 02:05 PM
yeah, im right and you know it. but i agree. as long as my egg keeps up. and it beets carrying a long stick feed

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 02:38 PM
yep

tgm
07-19-2003, 04:26 PM
not to crash this great physics discussion....but the turbo rev wasn't that great...it was pretty ****ty actually. I had a turbo rev and vortex imellers and i was not pleased at all. And it doesn't feed 16bps....WAS only tested it to like 13.82. Whateves...i still shoot a revvy so i don't give a ****

jabbster
07-19-2003, 04:31 PM
I dont know, I just heard that. I wasn't sure anyways...

Sincerely,

The jabbster

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 05:12 PM
i say dynasty should make there own series of hoppers. based on a revy shell but with the speed for people who like to rip

mychemicalromance
07-19-2003, 05:42 PM
my my look at what a disussion i have sparked.... yeah i agree if the could some how miniturize the egg internals and some how put it into a revy shell.... that would be the best hopper ever...... if any of u so cali people wanna try to do something like this.... let me know i like workin on random **** but i like workin with other people as well

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 05:48 PM
why exactly cant the board fit

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 07:13 PM
...yea... for once i agree with u

matman1
07-19-2003, 07:21 PM
it cant fit because an egg board is shaped differnt silly!

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 07:49 PM
that would be a good reason

mychemicalromance
07-19-2003, 07:52 PM
whos from so cali? lets do a project and manufacture moded revys with egg internals! haha =]

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 07:57 PM
i like your quote, its the truth

mychemicalromance
07-19-2003, 08:12 PM
any of u guys please answer this.... i just bought an xboard revy the impeller looks pretty wicked but i also got a jmj vortex from my old revy.... is the jmj still THE impeller to have on a revy?

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 08:17 PM
what id use is the impeller but heat the prongs and bend them so they catch the balls and increase the feed rate by a little

mychemicalromance
07-19-2003, 08:19 PM
please explain that a little further..... which impeller are u talkin about and bend them in what manner?

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 08:26 PM
on my revvy i had one of the old pellers from the egg1's then i would heat the prongs on it and bend it to the right (looking at it from the top) so that it would "cradle the balls" and feed them quicker

mychemicalromance
07-19-2003, 08:30 PM
thats from an egg cody....... here in my posession i have the stock x board impeller which looks pretty wicked..... and the jmj vortex impeller whcih one works better?

cody11scrappy
07-19-2003, 08:38 PM
you have a pic and ill tell you

DynastyIr3
07-19-2003, 09:52 PM
Um, Im from So Cal. Just use the Vortex Blades as they are when you buy them, they work great for me.

JTp8ntballer12
07-19-2003, 10:37 PM
do the vortex blades come stock with 12v w/x brd?

DynastyIr3
07-20-2003, 01:31 AM
No.

JTp8ntballer12
07-20-2003, 11:41 AM
thanks

andygonzo
07-20-2003, 02:18 PM
i figured it out, the have HALO's in Revy bodies..thats it

JTp8ntballer12
07-20-2003, 07:41 PM
ahh, yu smart man!

Therockstar
07-20-2003, 07:54 PM
hmm...I'd sooner believe they have miniature monkeys throwing paint into the breech than having halo innards in a revvy...:) j/m

JTp8ntballer12
07-20-2003, 08:25 PM
lol, prob just a turbo

cody11scrappy
07-21-2003, 11:44 PM
they proballjust have a minature egg inside of a revvy shell

cody11scrappy
07-21-2003, 11:44 PM
thats y they would reload so often too

BONES
07-25-2003, 06:52 PM
They must have halo internals.....lol

dark2k2LCD
07-25-2003, 11:25 PM
You guys be whores are really annoying

SuperFly
07-28-2003, 06:11 AM
I don't get it? I thought the max BPS in tourny's was 13 anyways? Who cares if the Revy can't shoot over 14bps. Why would Dynasty shoot over that and get penalties?? Better to just keep your BPS around 12 or 13 max. Did the BPS rate rule change? I don't know.

Prophet
07-28-2003, 02:33 PM
SuperFly - I have never heard of any 'BPS' limit at any tourny. There is practically no way to enforce anything like that.

crashdan
07-28-2003, 03:02 PM
there was an industry mandated mrof, but nobody followed it, except for aka i believe, then they decided because nobody else was, so they werent either

MoogLe
07-28-2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Therockstar
hmm...I'd sooner believe they have miniature monkeys throwing paint into the breech than having halo innards in a revvy...:) j/m

ya they sell those at our field, they're great, they even force feed

Prophet
07-28-2003, 08:02 PM
Well, this has been talked out. And keeps drifting off topic.

Closed.